[An-lang] PAN *ñ missing in the new presentation of the ACD

[Laurent Sagart]

Hello, colleagues.

I notice that in the new presentation of the ACD, *ñ has disappeared from
the list of phonemes at the top of the “Cognatesets” page. This is a matter
close to my heart since Blust has argued that my emendation of *j [gʲ] to a
palatal nasal clashed with PAN *ñ. Alex, can you provide any background ?
is this on Blust’s instructions ? did he say why ?

Other than that, I second Yuko Kitada's suggestions.

Best regards,

Laurent


Le sam. 18 mars 2023 à 05:35, Yuko Kitada <yuyumalaysia at hotmail.com> a
écrit :

> Dear Alex and An-listers,
>
> Thank you very much for your reply, Alex. It is good to preserve the
> original version of the ACD by Blust.
>
> As an avid user of the ACD, it would be more beneficial if you could do
> the following actions in the future:
>
> 1) Differentiate Blust's and your reconstructions by noting Blust's forms
> if you and his reconstructed items and their meanings differ. This is what
> Blust himself did for Dempwolff's reconstructed items, as observed here:
> https://www.trussel2.com/ACD/acd-s_g.htm#30961
>
> 2) Make an update log, which is easily accessible and readable as the
> original one. (https://www.trussel2.com/ACD/acd-updatelog.htm)
>
> I would appreciate it if you could consider these suggestions.
> I am sorry if I miss something that already exists.
>
> Best regards,
> Yuko Kitada
> yukokitada at outlook.com
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Alex <smith.alexander.david at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 11:44 AM
> *To:* Yuko Kitada <yuyumalaysia at hotmail.com>; An-lang at anu.edu.au <
> an-lang at anu.edu.au>
> *Subject:* RE: [An-lang] Opinion concerning the new ACD site
>
>
> The original ACD is still up, and the new ACD has release numbers and
> version control, so updates don’t make the past versions disappear.
>
>
>
> *From: *Yuko Kitada <yuyumalaysia at hotmail.com>
> *Sent: *Saturday, March 18, 2023 9:11 AM
> *To: *An-lang at anu.edu.au <an-lang at anu.edu.au>
> *Subject: *[An-lang] Opinion concerning the new ACD site
>
>
>
> Hello colleagues,
>
>
>
> It is fantastic to continue the ACD site. However, as a historical
> linguist, I think that what Professor Robert Blust wrote should be kept as
> it was, for example, as a backup as Blust's version or by annotating that
> given forms were suggested by him. It will be better for us if someone
> builds on it after publishing his version because no one thinks precisely
> the same as Professor Blust as a person (It is not a matter of good or
> bad.).
>
>
>
> What do you think about my opinion?
>
> Oceanic specialists might want to have a say about the new ACD by relating
> it to the Polynesian lexical collection by Professor Bruce Biggs, which has
> been developed by other professors and has become POLLEX Online (
> https://pollex.eva.mpg.de/). It has continued to be revised as well.
>
>
>
> Yuko Kitada
>
> yukokitada at outlook.com
>
>
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