[An-lang] PAN *ñ missing in the new presentation of the ACD

[Alex Smith]

The lack on ny is an error. The forms are still there in the ACD, just the
header is missing. Thanks for pointing it out.

On Sat, Mar 18, 2023, 3:15 PM Laurent Sagart <laurent.sagart at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello, colleagues.
>
> I notice that in the new presentation of the ACD, *ñ has disappeared from
> the list of phonemes at the top of the “Cognatesets” page. This is a matter
> close to my heart since Blust has argued that my emendation of *j [gʲ] to a
> palatal nasal clashed with PAN *ñ. Alex, can you provide any background ?
> is this on Blust’s instructions ? did he say why ?
>
> Other than that, I second Yuko Kitada's suggestions.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Laurent
>
>
> Le sam. 18 mars 2023 à 05:35, Yuko Kitada <yuyumalaysia at hotmail.com> a
> écrit :
>
>> Dear Alex and An-listers,
>>
>> Thank you very much for your reply, Alex. It is good to preserve the
>> original version of the ACD by Blust.
>>
>> As an avid user of the ACD, it would be more beneficial if you could do
>> the following actions in the future:
>>
>> 1) Differentiate Blust's and your reconstructions by noting Blust's forms
>> if you and his reconstructed items and their meanings differ. This is what
>> Blust himself did for Dempwolff's reconstructed items, as observed here:
>> https://www.trussel2.com/ACD/acd-s_g.htm#30961
>>
>> 2) Make an update log, which is easily accessible and readable as the
>> original one. (https://www.trussel2.com/ACD/acd-updatelog.htm)
>>
>> I would appreciate it if you could consider these suggestions.
>> I am sorry if I miss something that already exists.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Yuko Kitada
>> yukokitada at outlook.com
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Alex <smith.alexander.david at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 11:44 AM
>> *To:* Yuko Kitada <yuyumalaysia at hotmail.com>; An-lang at anu.edu.au <
>> an-lang at anu.edu.au>
>> *Subject:* RE: [An-lang] Opinion concerning the new ACD site
>>
>>
>> The original ACD is still up, and the new ACD has release numbers and
>> version control, so updates don’t make the past versions disappear.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Yuko Kitada <yuyumalaysia at hotmail.com>
>> *Sent: *Saturday, March 18, 2023 9:11 AM
>> *To: *An-lang at anu.edu.au <an-lang at anu.edu.au>
>> *Subject: *[An-lang] Opinion concerning the new ACD site
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello colleagues,
>>
>>
>>
>> It is fantastic to continue the ACD site. However, as a historical
>> linguist, I think that what Professor Robert Blust wrote should be kept as
>> it was, for example, as a backup as Blust's version or by annotating that
>> given forms were suggested by him. It will be better for us if someone
>> builds on it after publishing his version because no one thinks precisely
>> the same as Professor Blust as a person (It is not a matter of good or
>> bad.).
>>
>>
>>
>> What do you think about my opinion?
>>
>> Oceanic specialists might want to have a say about the new ACD by
>> relating it to the Polynesian lexical collection by Professor Bruce Biggs,
>> which has been developed by other professors and has become POLLEX Online (
>> https://pollex.eva.mpg.de/). It has continued to be revised as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yuko Kitada
>>
>> yukokitada at outlook.com
>>
>>
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