ARABIC-L: LING: Long vowels responses

[Dilworth B. Parkinson]

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1) Subject: loan words
2) Subject: number of vowels in words
3) Subject: Long vowels discussion

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Date: 11 Jan 1999
From: "Buckwalter, Tim" <TimB at alpinemedia.COM>
Subject: loan words

Although the root morpheme ('ayn-shiin-raa') is undisputed, the pattern
morpheme _aa_uu_aa' is not found in any other Arabic word that I know
of. Wehr does list the word zaajuuraa, but this is an obvious loan word.
My search for words with CvvCvvCvv yielded only additional loan words
(e.g. brwfyswr, fwnwgrAf, hwlywwd, etc.).

Tim Buckwalter

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2)
Date: 11 Jan 1999
From: Kahlaoui Noureddine <kahlaoun at ERE.UMontreal.CA>
Subject: number of vowels in words

One may be inclined to think that there's no constraint on the number
of phonemic long vowels in a word of Arabic though the phonology of the
language doesn't seem to allow more than two in a single word.
One can imagine words such as the following:
maawaraa?ii	------> maawaraa?iyyaat
and if the need arises for the opposite of that concept, it would give
rise to even this:
laamaawaraa?iyyaat
The morphological structure of Arabic seems to allow these derivations,
just as it adopted 'metaphysiacal' as:
miitaafiiziiqii.
Now on a phonological level different degrees of reduction of the long
vowels will happen in the same word. One can expect those reductions in
standard Arabic to be influenced by the phonology of the local
dialect/language.

Noureddine kahlaoui

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3)
Date: 11 Jan 1999
From: AHMED KHORSHID <KHORSHID at aucegypt.edu>
Subject: Long vowels discussion

When I first read this subject I assumed that the three long vowels
should be medial. So, I thought of qaamuusaan, etc. Now, other responses
include final long vowels like -haa, which gives us four long vowels,e.g.
qaamuusaahaa, etc.

Ahmad Khorshid
AUC

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