Arabic-L:LING:Al-3abd Allaah

[Dilworth Parkinson]

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Date: 17 Aug 2008
From:Peter Verkinderen [peter.verkinderen at ugent.be]
Subject:Al-3abd Allaah

Dear Mike,

I think the case of the names of the cities you mention is somewhat
different; these names are considered definite even though they don't
have the alif-lâm, which is the same for personal names (e.g.,
Muhammad al-Amîn), and some rivers (Dijla = the Tigris, Dijla l-3awrâ'
= the one-eyed Tigris)

In medieval Iraq there are a number of hydronyms that are analogous to
David's "Ramla l-BaiDâ'" : Nahr al-Jadîd, Nahr al-Mubârak, Nahr
al-Aisar. I don't know how to explain these forms, but apparently
there is a wider pattern. I'd be very grateful if someone could
enlighten us.

As for Al-3Abd Allâh: I think the Al- is the same element as in Iraqi
tribal names like Albû Muhammad, which is probably derived from âl
(family).

Best wishes,

Peter Verkinderen

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