Arabic-L:PEDA:MEMRITV responses

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Date: 11 Feb 2008
From:Elissa Krieg <goldberry2005 at gmail.com>
Subject:MEMRITV response

Thank you for this tip. Unfortunately I just tried this on my Mac and  
couldn't view any of the clips.

Elissa Krieg

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2)
Date: 11 Feb 2008
From:Nadia Yaqub <yaqubn at yahoo.com>
Subject:MEMRITV response

Mike Shub,
  I hope you are thoroughly contextualizing MemriTV as a news source  
when you use it in the classroom. While I have no illusions about the  
ability of any news publication to be without bias, there is  
nonetheless a difference between ideologically and commercially driven  
sources and your students should know that this is most definitely an  
example of the former.  You may select the programs you show your  
students with all possible care, but the main piece of information  
that your students will take home from your lessons is that MemriTV is  
a source that you, their instructor, likes and uses.  This is all the  
encouragement they may need for making it their primary source of news  
on the Arab World.  I can't imagine a better way to both foster  
ongoing support for MEMRI and  contribute to the distorted view of the  
Arab World that is already so prevalent in this country.
  Nadia Yaqub

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3)
Date: 11 Feb 2008
From:taoufiq ben amor <tb46 at columbia.edu>
Subject:MEMRITV response

Dear Mr. Schub,

I generally would make more of an effort to be articulate, but are you  
serious about this recommendation? Read the titles, and THEY ARE IN  
ENGLISH. I counted the word "terrorism" half a dozen times. Now, how  
do you suggest we smooth that out with some "love and care" as you  
say? How about the content? How about the dubiousness of the  
interviewees, like Wafa Sultan and her likes? Have you actually  
listened to what she has to say?

As an alternative, and enjoy the humor here if you can, i found this  
clip (one of many) of Mr. Bush speaking Arabic. Perhaps you could  
volunteer the ENGLISH TRANSLATION.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7EbKkuICQFg&feature=related

best,

t ben amor

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4)
Date: 11 Feb 2008
From:"David Wilmsen" <david.wilmsen at gmail.com>
Subject:MEMRITV response

It would be a disservice to our students to plunk them down in front
of Memri without a long discussion of the agenda of the site's owners
and operators. About that agenda see the discussion in these sources:


Whitaker, Brian (2002) 'Selective MEMRI', The Guardian, 12 August.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,7792,773258,00.html 
.

Harris, Leah (2003) 'A Note on MEMRI & Translations', Counterpunch, 15
January. http://www.counterpunch.org/harris01152003.html.

El Oifi, Mohammed (2005) 'Gained in Translation: Why the Middle East
Media Research Institute is a source of English versions of Arabic
texts that are designed to mislead and disinform', Le Monde
diplomatique (English edition), October, 12-13.

Repressive MEMRI, by Juan Cole
http://www.antiwar.com/cole/?articleid=4047

Guardian email debate between Brian Whitaker and Yigal Carmon (2003)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/comment/0,,884156,00.html

Livingstone, Ken (Mayor of London) (2005) Why the Mayor of London will
maintain dialogues with all of London's faiths and communities: A
reply to the dossier against the Mayor's meeting with Dr Yusuf
al-Qaradawi, London: Greater London Authority.

Arabic under Fire: A child on Hamas TV talked of annihilating the Jews
- or did she?, Brian Whitaker, The Guardian, 15 May 2007.
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/brian_whitaker/2007/05/arabic_under_fire.html

Arabs Against Discrimination
(http://www.aad-online.org/en/AboutUs/tabid/73/Default.aspx),
originally set up specifically as a response to MEMRI's activities.

Mideast Wire (http://www.mideastwire.com/index.php) offers another
good source for more balanced translated reporting on Arabic media.

See also MEMRI Watch (www.memriwatch.org)

And Mona Baker's discussion of MEMRI's tactics in Translation and
Conflict: A Narrative Account, London & New York, Routledge, 2006, pp.
73-75, 108, 109, 114, 177

-- 
David Wilmsen, PhD, Arabic language and linguistics
Visiting Associate Professor of Arabic
Department of Arabic and Near Eastern Languages
American University of Beirut

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