Stops and affricates and terminology

[Leslie Saxon]

Oops! Sorry for the missent message, Joyce and all!  L.


On 02/12/09 10:34 AM, "Leslie Saxon" <saxon at uvic.ca> wrote:

Hi Joyce. Thanks for this reference. With so much going on for me I haven't yet read your paper, which I'm looking forward to. I am lucky enough to be teaching Athabaskan next semester. L.


On 02/12/09 9:48 AM, "Joyce McDonough" <jmmcd at LING.ROCHESTER.EDU> wrote:

James

In a recent paper in Journal of Phonetics, we referred to this class as
a class of 'stops', defined it once as the stops and affricates.  It got
by the reviewers just fine.

McDonough, J. and V. Wood (2008). "The stop contrasts of the Athabaskan
languages." Journal of Phonetics Issue 3, Pages 423-536.


Joyce McDonough

James Crippen wrote:
> As far as I understand things, in all the Athabaskan languages the
> series of (oral) stops and affricates together form a natural class of
> consonants. Certainly this is true in Tlingit, where affricates behave
> like stops phonologically. (Phonetically they are quite different, of
> course.) The annoying thing is that I have to keep writing clumsy
> phrases like "all unaspirated stops and affricates", or "all ejective
> stops and affricates". Is there a term which unites both classes under
> a single umbrella? Something like "obstruent" but excluding
> fricatives? Saying "non-fricative obstruents" is even worse than
> "stops and affricates". I have asked all of my local phonologists,
> even the historical linguists, but none could think of such a term.
>
> Thanks,
> James
>
>
>

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Leslie Saxon
Department of Linguistics
University of Victoria
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(250) 721-7423 (fax)
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Certificate in Aboriginal Language Revitalization
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