Japanese MOR

[Brian MacWhinney]

Dear Susanne,
    I believe that the materials on the CHILDES server at  
http://childes.psy.cmu.edu/morgrams/
have the grammar and Wakachi both from 2002.

--Brian

On Oct 14, 2004, at 4:50 AM, Susanne Miyata wrote:

> Hi, Linda,
> the problem is caused by the fact that you are apparently using two  
> different versions of Wakachi and JMOR,
> namely WAKACHI98, which has been updated to Wakachi2002, and JMOR02  
> (which had an earlier version matching  WAKACHI98).
> You can find the current Wakachi at the JCHAT homepage  
> http://jchat.cyber.sccs.chukyo-u.ac.jp/JCHAT/index.html under  
> "Services", or directly at  
> http://jchat.cyber.sccs.chukyo-u.ac.jp/JCHAT/Wakachi2002v.2.0/ 
> 00front.html.
> If you have to change your data from WAKACHI98 to Wakachi2002, you may  
> want to do systematic replacement and  use a replace file (using the  
> not chstring but the simple replace funtion, with a
> replace.cut). I can send you (and to anybody else interested) my own  
> replace.cut file.
> Susanne
>
>
> At 10:34 -0400 04.10.13, Cote, Linda (NIH/NICHD) wrote:
> Good morning,
>  
> We have two questions about Japanese MOR.
> First, how do we parse compound verbs in Japanese MOR?  In Suzanne  
> Miyata's JCHAT Manual (chapter 29), it says to do it one way (e.g.,   
> tabetekuru is parsed as   v:v|tabe-tekur-PRES) and in the WAKACHI.doc  
> file that is part of the downloadable JMOR program from the CHILDES  
> website, it says to do it another way (e.g., for the same compound  
> verb tabetekuru).  (Basically JCHAT Manual does not count the 2nd verb  
> in the compound verb as a separate morpheme, whereas WAKACHI.doc  
> does.)
>  
> Second, in Miyata's JCHAT Manual, mitai is categorized as SMOD  
> (Sentence modalizer) but in Wakachi it's categorized as an auxiliary  
> verb (v:aux|mitai-PRES).  Which is correct?  (The SMOD category does  
> not seem to be listed in Miyata's JCHAT Manual).
>  
> We think that when Miyata's JCHAT Manual and Wakachi.doc conflict,  
> that the Japanese MOR program follows Wakachi.doc, in terms of the  
> choices it gives you.  Is this correct?
>  
> Thank you,
>  
> Linda
> Linda R. Cote, Ph.D.
> Research Scientist and Statistical Contractor
> Child & Family Research
> National Institute of Child Health and Human Development
> Suite 8030
> 6705 Rockledge Drive
> Bethesda, MD  20892-7971
> Telephone:  (301) 496-6832
> Fax:  (301) 496-2766
> E-mail:  cotel at cfr.nichd.nih.gov
>  
>
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