Switches in FLO (+u or >>, +c1) and making a list of speaker IDs

[Brian MacWhinney]

Dear Amanda,

    Thanks for spotting this mistake in the manual.  I see now that we changed +c to +xcN several months ago and that
this change was not yet reflected in the manual.  (It is just now.)  However, if you just type "kwal" you will see this description of the +xcN
switch and the related +xS switch:

+xCN: include only utterances which are C (>, <, =) than N items (w, c, m), "+x=0w" for zero words
+xS: specify items to include in above count (Example: +xxxx +xyyy)
-xS: specify items to exclude from above count

This is only for KWAL, not FLO.  So you would still want to use KWAL first and then FLO.
Please give this a try.  Hopefully, it can save you from relying on BBEdit in this case.

--Brian MacWhinney

On Aug 14, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Amanda Owen Van Horne <ajowen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry for the confusion.  I was following the instructions on page 110 of the manual 
> "+c Select speaker tier only if has at least Nwords or 0 for no words at all"  
> I'll experiment with another method.
> 
> Amanda 
> 
> Amanda J. Owen Van Horne
> ajowen at gmail.com
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> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Brian MacWhinney <macw at cmu.edu> wrote:
> Dear Amanda,
>     KWAL never had a +c switch.  I don't believe that the +c switch for FLO was designed to remove empty utterances.  As I suggested earlier, for such specialized removals, you would want to use something like BBEdit or Sublime Edit. I would do this before a final run of FLO.
> 
> --Brian
>  
> On Aug 14, 2013, at 10:29 AM, Amanda Owen Van Horne <ajowen at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> So I just tried to run a similar analysis using KWAL and the +c switch doesn't seem to work in KWAL either (I both typed in my own command and copied and pasted the example for extracting speech only from 9.17.2.   Does +c not work anymore? 
>> 
>> Amanda 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, August 14, 2013 8:41:26 AM UTC-5, Amanda Owen Van Horne wrote:
>> Hi, 
>>   I'm cleaning codes out of some CHAT files to prepare them for use in another program - I really want one gigantic file full of adult input to children. 
>> 
>> For the most part I've been relying on the FLO command to create a new file of just the adult input (flo @ -t*CHI -t% +d +r1 +f).  
>> 
>>   I'd like to do a few things to improve workflow that have me stumped: 
>> 
>> 1) eliminate 'empty' utterances (*MOT: 0.).  FLO changes it to *MOT: .  <-- +c1 seems like it might do this in KWAL (9.17.3 in the manual) but +c doesn't do the same thing with every command and doesn't seem available with FLO. Do I need to do a first pass with KWAL and pipe the results into FLO?  Or vice versa? 
>> 
>> 2) Make a list of all speaker identifiers across a series of corpus files  (*MOT:, *FAT:, *URS:, etc) 
>> 
>> 3) Merge all of the output into a single file.  FLO @ -t*CHI -t% +d >>myanalyses  doesn't work nor does +u.  The first generates an empty file called myanalyses plus lots of individual files while the second yields an error message. Again should I be combinging FLO with something else to get the output I want. 
>> 
>> I've been experimenting with the BATES corpus for now but hope to use more if I can sort out the above issues. 
>> 
>> Thanks so much for any guidance you can provide.
>> 
>> Amanda 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Amanda J. Owen Van Horne PHD CCC-SLP
>> Department of Communication Sciences and Disorders
>> University of Iowa
>> 
>> 
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