treament of circumfixes

[Leonid Spektor]

Bruno,

	I am saying that MLU will count the same word coding the same way regardless of which tier this word coding is on. MLU does not distinguish between different morpheme symbols or tier they are on. All four character "-#~+” have the same count number and meaning to MLU. You can have the following on either speaker or %mor tier and even though it might look ridiculous and incomprehensible to you and any other person to MLU it will still add-up to 4 morphemes.

*CHI:		nd-a-guata-i. 		= 4 morphemes
*CHI:		nd~a#guata+i. 		= 4 morphemes
*CHI:		nd#a#guata-i. 		= 4 morphemes
*CHI:		nd~a-guata#i. 		= 4 morphemes
*CHI:		nd#a+guata-i. 		= 4 morphemes
*CHI:		nd-a#guata~i. 		= 4 morphemes
*CHI:		NEG#1s#walk-NEG.	= 4 morphemes

%mor:	NEG#1s#walk-NEG	.	= 4 morphemes
%mor:	NEG-1s-walk-NEG.		= 4 morphemes
%mor:	NEG+1s~walk#NEG.	= 4 morphemes
%mor:	NEG-1s#walk~NEG	.	= 4 morphemes
%mor:	NEG~1s#walk-NEG	.	= 4 morphemes
%mor:	nd-a-guata-i	.		= 4 morphemes


Leonid.



On Nov 14, 2013, at 10:38, Bruno Estigarribia <brunilda at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you Leonid. So, are you saying that to have mlu count a circumfix as ONE morpheme instead of two, one MUST use the %mor tier, so mlu can put together the two occurrences of NEG? If so, does that happen automatically or does one have to give mlu particular instructions?
> Thanks,
> Bruno
>> Bruno,
>> 
>>  MLU looks for the follow four characters to count morphemes: "-#~+”. I addition the word itself is also counted as one morpheme. In you examples “NEG#1s#walk-NEG” and "nd-a-guata-i" MLU would count 4 morphemes, regardless of whether those words are on main speaker tier or on %mor tier. I would however recommend coding Guaraní language words on %mor tier, since you have to do it by hand anyway, because the Spanish words will be coded on %mor tier and it is easier to search and analyze the same kind of data if it is located in the same place for all languages.
>> 
>> Leonid.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 09:46, Bruno Estigarribia <brunilda at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all!
>>> 
>>> I am analyzing a corpus of code-switching between Spanish and Guaraní.
>>> While we prepare a better version using a %mor tier (mostly done by hand, obviously, since I don't think we have lib files for Guaraní :-) ), I have been doing some quick "old-style" morphemization on the main tier (which I believe will still work with MLU as long as I include the -t%mor switch, right?).
>>> Then a question came up: how does mlu treat circumfixes? Example, the Guaraní negation nd-...-i as in:
>>> nd-a-guata-i
>>> NEG#1s#walk-NEG
>>> "I don't walk"
>>> I obviously don't want to count nd# and -i separately...
>>> I couldn't find the answer on either the CHAT or the CLAN manuals, or on this list. Sorry if I've missed something!
>>> Thanks!
>>> Bruno
>>> 
>>> Bruno Estigarribia
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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