Question about marking clauses

Tue Apr 14 22:55:48 UTC 2015

Dear both,

Thank you so much for the quick response and for adjusting CLAN to make
this analysis possible. I really appreciate it!

Best,
Nicole

On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Leonid Spektor <spektor at andrew.cmu.edu>
wrote:

> Nicole,
>
> We gave this idea more consideration and using our existing conventions we
> decided to handle clauses differently. You can still have symbol [^c] for
> clauses without errors. But, for clauses with errors you can have a generic
> code [^c *], or a more specific codes  [^c error type 1],  [^c error type
> 2] and so on  [^c error ...]. This convention will make it easier for FREQ
> to search for all clauses using this command: freq +s"[^c*]". Or for only
> clauses without errors with this command:
> freq +s"[^c]". Or for specific error/type clause with this command: freq
> +s"[^c error type 1]".
>
>
> Leonid.
>
> On Apr 14, 2015, at 14:05, Brian MacWhinney <macw at cmu.edu> wrote:
>
> Dear Nicole,
>
> Great question.  I think the best way to do this is to use a variant of
> [^c] in the cases in which the clause contains an error.  Let’s say that
> this new code is [^d].  Then you can simply count both [^c] and [^d] using
> FREQ, as you mention below.  The only catch here is that we had to slightly
> modify the depfile.cut to allow this.  So, if you get a new version of CLAN
> with this new depfile.cut, it will allow [^d] (or any other code of this
> form) along with [^c].   I also modified the relevant section of the CLAN
> manual to read as follows.
>
> —Brian MacW
>
> Clause Delimiter                             [^c]
>
> If you wish to conduct analyses such as MLU and MLT based on clauses
> rather than utterances as the basic unit of analysis, you should mark the
> end of each clause with this symbol.  It is not necessary to mark the scope
> of this symbol, since it is assumed to apply to all the material before it
> up to the beginning of the utterance or up to the preceding [^c] marker. It
> is possible to create additonal user-defined single-letter codes using this
> format, such as [^d] which could be defined as a marker of a clause that
> includes an error. Then, inside the MLU and MLT programs, you need to add
> the +c switch to specify exactly which codes of this type should be
> recognized.
>
> On Apr 14, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Nicole Tracy-Ventura <
> nicole.tracy.ventura at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> I'm interested in marking clauses in my transcripts with the [^c] marker.
> I also want to mark whether the clauses contain errors so that I can count
> the number of clauses with errors and those without. Would the best way to
> do this be to just add [*] after the [^c] if there is an error anywhere in
> the clause?
>
> I tried doing this and ran a simple freq command adding +s"[^c]^[*]" but
> it said there were none. Adding +s"[^c]" by itself worked fine to get the
> total number of clauses.
>
> Thank you in advance for any help!
>
> Nicole
>
>
> Nicole Tracy-Ventura
> University of South Florida
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "chibolts" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to chibolts+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to chibolts at googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/chibolts/CA%2B3CKJ5mRuFy4MWXiAZP6G89UJE59hFSZSdPH5a4M6_k9EReEQ%40mail.gmail.com
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/chibolts/CA%2B3CKJ5mRuFy4MWXiAZP6G89UJE59hFSZSdPH5a4M6_k9EReEQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>
> .
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
>
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "chibolts" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to chibolts+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to chibolts at googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/chibolts/8D1A96C5-C7F6-4FAE-AA4B-99E5825122DD%40cmu.edu
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/chibolts/8D1A96C5-C7F6-4FAE-AA4B-99E5825122DD%40cmu.edu?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>
> .
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "chibolts" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to chibolts+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to chibolts at googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/chibolts/CA%2B3CKJ6dWNCFCFZnV9BTFwLnD49zPuD1m_HCFkokzKpQ_NKLqw%40mail.gmail.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/chibolts/attachments/20150414/75bbf31c/attachment.htm>