Freq in a bilingual conversation
Brian MacWhinney
macw at cmu.edu
Fri Jul 10 22:29:02 UTC 2015
Dear Alex,
Are you using the angela.cha file in the /Biling/CUHK segment of CHILDES? If so, there is only a minimal
amount of Mandarin (zho) in that file, but the one utterance that is relevant comes up fine with this command:
freq +s"[- zho]” angela.cha
> freq +s"[- zho]" angela.cha
freq +s"[- zho]" angela.cha
Fri Jul 10 18:26:51 2015
freq (08-May-2015) is conducting analyses on:
ALL speaker tiers
****************************************
>From file <angela.cha>
Speaker: *AUN:
------------------------------
0 Total number of different item types used
0 Total number of items (tokens)
Speaker: *CHI:
1 cookie at s
1 gwaai3sau2
1 ji4zoeng6
1 tung4waa6
------------------------------
4 Total number of different item types used
4 Total number of items (tokens)
1.000 Type/Token ratio
Perhaps you need a new version of CLAN?
—Brian MacWhinney
> On Jul 10, 2015, at 5:21 PM, A Cristia <alecristia at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Leonid,
>
> Thank you so much for the response - I see now how the syntax changes between the two commands you first mentioned.
>
> Surprisingly, though, I'm still getting zero counts with both:
> freq +s"[- zho]" angela.cha
> freq +s"<- zho>" angela.cha
>
> For instance, on http://childes.psy.cmu.edu/browser/index.php?url=Biling/CUHK/
> freq +s"[- zho]" angela.cha
>
> Fri Jul 10 12:08:27 2015
> freq (21-Apr-2015) is conducting analyses on:
> ALL speaker tiers
> ****************************************
>
> From file "angela.cha" <http://childes.talkbank.org/browser/index.php?url=Biling/CUHK/angela.cha>
> Speaker: *AUN:
> ------------------------------
> 0 Total number of different item types used
> 0 Total number of items (tokens)
>
> Speaker: *CHI:
> ------------------------------
> 0 Total number of different item types used
> 0 Total number of items (tokens)
>
> Speaker: *UNC:
> ------------------------------
> 0 Total number of different item types used
> 0 Total number of items (tokens)
>
> Speaker: *MOT:
> ------------------------------
> 0 Total number of different item types used
> 0 Total number of items (tokens)
>
> Yet on lines 31, 174, 303, etc, there are some [- zho].
>
> Thank you once more,
>
> -alex
>
> On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 11:50:06 AM UTC-5, Spektor, Leonid: CMU wrote:
> Alex,
>
> I want to add one more command line which will count zho words located only on utterances that have all or most words spoken in zho language:
>
> freq +s"[- zho]" angela.cha
>
>
> Leonid.
>
>> On Jul 9, 2015, at 00:16, Leonid Spektor <spe... at andrew.cmu.edu <javascript:>> wrote:
>>
>> Alex,
>>
>> Unfortunately the manual has combined two mutually exclusive options into one. The correct commands for example file angela.cha from CUHK corpus are:
>>
>> freq +l +s*@s:zho angela.cha
>>
>> freq +s"<- zho>" angela.cha
>>
>>
>> Combination of options "+l +s*@s:zho" will locate all words spoken in zho language. The option +s"<- zho> will only locate utterances that have either all or most words spoken in zho language.
>>
>> Leonid.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2015, at 21:57, A Cristia <alecr... at gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> This is an old thread, but relevant to my own questions, as I'm also trying to get some freq counts in bilingual conversations.
>>>
>>> The CLAN manual (p. 95) states:
>>> freq +l +s"<- spa>" *.cha
>>>
>>>
>>> However, when I run it on my file, I don't get anything (counts of zero). Note that
>>> freq +l *.cha
>>>
>>>
>>> does yield the expected results (frequencies by language by speaker). I thought there may be something wrong with my file, so I downloaded the CUHK corpus, because the "angela.cha" file has some '[- zho]' and tried
>>> freq +l +s"<- zho>" *.cha
>>>
>>> freq +l +s"[- zho]" *.cha
>>>
>>>
>>> Still zero counts. I also tried online:
>>> http://childes.psy.cmu.edu/browser/index.php?url=Biling/CUHK/ <http://childes.psy.cmu.edu/browser/index.php?url=Biling/CUHK/>
>>>
>>> freq +l +s"[- zho]" angela.cha
>>>
>>> Wed Jul 8 21:55:43 2015
>>> freq (21-Apr-2015) is conducting analyses on:
>>> ALL speaker tiers
>>> ****************************************
>>>
>>> From file "angela.cha" <http://childes.talkbank.org/browser/index.php?url=Biling/CUHK/angela.cha>
>>> Speaker: *AUN:
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 0 Total number of different item types used
>>> 0 Total number of items (tokens)
>>>
>>> Speaker: *CHI:
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 0 Total number of different item types used
>>> 0 Total number of items (tokens)
>>>
>>> Speaker: *UNC:
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 0 Total number of different item types used
>>> 0 Total number of items (tokens)
>>>
>>> Speaker: *MOT:
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 0 Total number of different item types used
>>> 0 Total number of items (tokens)
>>>
>>> And the same issues with the [ version.
>>>
>>> What am I doing wrong?
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance,
>>>
>>> Alex Cristia
>>>
>>>
>>>
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