Freq in a bilingual conversation

Sat Jul 11 01:42:22 UTC 2015

Alex,

	You are right about CLAN on the childes web site not working correctly. When we updated to new OS and therefor new web server, something went wrong and options with spaces in them, such as +s"[- zho]", stopped working. I have fixed the web CLAN script to work correctly again. The CLAN application however was always working correctly and we always encourage people to use CLAN application, that you can download from URL http://childes.talkbank.org/clan/ <http://childes.talkbank.org/clan/>, instead of CLAN on the web, because CLAN on the web is very limited in it's functionality. Primarily, you can not create a file with any web CLAN command.

Leonid.

> On Jul 10, 2015, at 17:21, A Cristia <alecristia at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Leonid,
> 
> Thank you so much for the response - I see now how the syntax changes between the two commands you first mentioned.
> 
> Surprisingly, though, I'm still getting zero counts with both:
> freq +s"[- zho]" angela.cha
> freq +s"<- zho>" angela.cha
> 
> For instance, on http://childes.psy.cmu.edu/browser/index.php?url=Biling/CUHK/
> freq +s"[- zho]" angela.cha
> 
> Fri Jul 10 12:08:27 2015
> freq (21-Apr-2015) is conducting analyses on:
>   ALL speaker tiers
> ****************************************
> 
> From file "angela.cha" <http://childes.talkbank.org/browser/index.php?url=Biling/CUHK/angela.cha>
> Speaker: *AUN:
> ------------------------------
>     0  Total number of different item types used
>     0  Total number of items (tokens)
> 
> Speaker: *CHI:
> ------------------------------
>     0  Total number of different item types used
>     0  Total number of items (tokens)
> 
> Speaker: *UNC:
> ------------------------------
>     0  Total number of different item types used
>     0  Total number of items (tokens)
> 
> Speaker: *MOT:
> ------------------------------
>     0  Total number of different item types used
>     0  Total number of items (tokens)
> 
> Yet on lines 31, 174, 303, etc, there are some [- zho].
> 
> Thank you once more,
> 
> -alex
> 
> On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 11:50:06 AM UTC-5, Spektor, Leonid: CMU wrote:
> Alex,
> 
> 	I want to add one more command line which will count zho words located only on utterances that have all or most words spoken in zho language:
> 
> freq +s"[- zho]" angela.cha
> 
> 
> Leonid.
> 
>> On Jul 9, 2015, at 00:16, Leonid Spektor <spe... at andrew.cmu.edu <javascript:>> wrote:
>> 
>> Alex,
>> 
>> 	Unfortunately the manual has combined two mutually exclusive options into one. The correct commands for example file angela.cha from CUHK corpus are:
>> 
>> freq +l +s*@s:zho angela.cha
>> 
>> freq +s"<- zho>" angela.cha
>> 
>> 
>> Combination of options "+l +s*@s:zho" will locate all words spoken in zho language. The option +s"<- zho> will only locate utterances that have either all or most words spoken in zho language.
>> 
>> Leonid.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 8, 2015, at 21:57, A Cristia <alecr... at gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear all,
>>> 
>>> This is an old thread, but relevant to my own questions, as I'm also trying to get some freq counts in bilingual conversations.
>>> 
>>> The CLAN manual (p. 95) states:
>>> freq +l +s"<- spa>" *.cha 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> However, when I run it on my file, I don't get anything (counts of zero). Note that 
>>> freq +l *.cha 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> does yield the expected results (frequencies by language by speaker). I thought there may be something wrong with my file, so I downloaded the CUHK corpus, because the "angela.cha" file has some '[- zho]' and tried
>>> freq +l +s"<- zho>" *.cha 
>>> 
>>> freq +l +s"[- zho]" *.cha 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Still zero counts. I also tried online:
>>> http://childes.psy.cmu.edu/browser/index.php?url=Biling/CUHK/ <http://childes.psy.cmu.edu/browser/index.php?url=Biling/CUHK/>
>>> 
>>> freq +l +s"[- zho]" angela.cha
>>> 
>>> Wed Jul  8 21:55:43 2015
>>> freq (21-Apr-2015) is conducting analyses on:
>>>   ALL speaker tiers
>>> ****************************************
>>> 
>>> From file "angela.cha" <http://childes.talkbank.org/browser/index.php?url=Biling/CUHK/angela.cha>
>>> Speaker: *AUN:
>>> ------------------------------
>>>     0  Total number of different item types used
>>>     0  Total number of items (tokens)
>>> 
>>> Speaker: *CHI:
>>> ------------------------------
>>>     0  Total number of different item types used
>>>     0  Total number of items (tokens)
>>> 
>>> Speaker: *UNC:
>>> ------------------------------
>>>     0  Total number of different item types used
>>>     0  Total number of items (tokens)
>>> 
>>> Speaker: *MOT:
>>> ------------------------------
>>>     0  Total number of different item types used
>>>     0  Total number of items (tokens)
>>> 
>>>  And the same issues with the [ version.
>>> 
>>> What am I doing wrong?
>>> 
>>> Thank you in advance,
>>> 
>>> Alex Cristia
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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