Timedur, %tim, and getting elapsed time output

Brian MacWhinney macw at cmu.edu
Wed Feb 3 20:24:08 UTC 2016


Dear Brian,
    Unfortunately, none of the CLAN programs use the information in the %tim tier to computer anything.  Instead, as the manual notes, the TIMEDUR program specifically relies on information in the time bullets for each utterance.  I am afraid I can’t think of any work around to help you out on this.  The closest I could imagine is to use KWAL to output all of the %tim lines from each file separately to a single data file that then goes into a sheet in EXCEL or something like that.  However, I can’t think of any way of doing this inside CLAN, because our programs are dependent on using information in the time bullets.

—Brian MacWhinney

From: ChiBolts <chibolts at googlegroups.com<mailto:chibolts at googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Brian Verdine <brian.verdine at gmail.com<mailto:brian.verdine at gmail.com>>
Reply-To: ChiBolts <chibolts at googlegroups.com<mailto:chibolts at googlegroups.com>>
Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2016 at 12:35 PM
To: ChiBolts <chibolts at googlegroups.com<mailto:chibolts at googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Timedur, %tim, and getting elapsed time output

Hi everyone,

I'm a new user and I have been doing some work to convert a homegrown transcription system to CHAT files.  The transcriptions I converted all had a start time that was the timestamp from the videos and every X utterances, transcribers were asked to write another timestamp, including specifically stamping the last utterance.  I did not want to lose this information, so when I created the CHAT files I used a VB script to put the start time in with an "@Time Start:  mm:ss" header and then placed all of the following timestamps into the transcriptions with %tim tiers, resulting in a file that looks like the attached.  Because these transcriptions are converted from another format, they are not linked in any way to the video using bullets.

I'm having a hard time finding a lot of information about getting commands to read time information written into the transcriptions or if there is a simple way to just output the total elapsed time for a transcription from the start time and  %tim tiers.  From what I gather timedur does not look at %tim tiers and I can verify that when I run it on these files it outputs a blank excel sheet with timedur column headers.

I am not necessarily looking to do anything fancy. I want to be able to auto-calculate the total time for identifying possible reliability concerns, report average transcribed times in a methods section, and maybe be able to do some basic rate calculations in CLAN based on total time.

Is there a command I'm missing?  Is there a different format, headers, or tiers I would need to use?  Or is there a way I can simply get the program to output the start time and the last %tim tier for a group of files to an excel sheet so that I can calculate the elapsed times quickly as a batch?  I could have people go through them individually and make changes or just calculate the times, but it is about 120 transcriptions.  I figured some time investigating ways to automate this might be worth it.

Thanks for any help!
Brian


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