Timedur, %tim, and getting elapsed time output

[Brian Verdine]

Thanks Brian!  This is not that different from the reply I thought I might 
be in for...

I am sure I can get some output from something like KWAL that can make the 
calculation easier than having to open each and hand calculate, but at 
least now I know there is nothing built-in that I am missing or that I'm 
not doing something wrong with headers or tiers.



On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 at 3:24:10 PM UTC-5, Brian MacWhinney wrote:
>
> Dear Brian,
>     Unfortunately, none of the CLAN programs use the information in the 
> %tim tier to computer anything.  Instead, as the manual notes, the TIMEDUR 
> program specifically relies on information in the time bullets for each 
> utterance.  I am afraid I can’t think of any work around to help you out on 
> this.  The closest I could imagine is to use KWAL to output all of the %tim 
> lines from each file separately to a single data file that then goes into a 
> sheet in EXCEL or something like that.  However, I can’t think of any way 
> of doing this inside CLAN, because our programs are dependent on using 
> information in the time bullets.
>
> —Brian MacWhinney
>
> From: ChiBolts <chib... at googlegroups.com <javascript:>> on behalf of 
> Brian Verdine <brian.... at gmail.com <javascript:>>
> Reply-To: ChiBolts <chib... at googlegroups.com <javascript:>>
> Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2016 at 12:35 PM
> To: ChiBolts <chib... at googlegroups.com <javascript:>>
> Subject: Timedur, %tim, and getting elapsed time output
>
> Hi everyone, 
>
> I'm a new user and I have been doing some work to convert a homegrown 
> transcription system to CHAT files.  The transcriptions I converted all had 
> a start time that was the timestamp from the videos and every X utterances, 
> transcribers were asked to write another timestamp, including specifically 
> stamping the last utterance.  I did not want to lose this information, so 
> when I created the CHAT files I used a VB script to put the start time in 
> with an "@Time Start:  mm:ss" header and then placed all of the following 
> timestamps into the transcriptions with %tim tiers, resulting in a file 
> that looks like the attached.  Because these transcriptions are converted 
> from another format, they are not linked in any way to the video using 
> bullets.
>
> I'm having a hard time finding a lot of information about getting commands 
> to read time information written into the transcriptions or if there is a 
> simple way to just output the total elapsed time for a transcription from 
> the start time and  %tim tiers.  From what I gather timedur does not look 
> at %tim tiers and I can verify that when I run it on these files it outputs 
> a blank excel sheet with timedur column headers.  
>
> I am not necessarily looking to do anything fancy. I want to be able to 
> auto-calculate the total time for identifying possible reliability 
> concerns, report average transcribed times in a methods section, and 
> *maybe* be able to do some basic rate calculations in CLAN based on total 
> time.  
>
> Is there a command I'm missing?  Is there a different format, headers, or 
> tiers I would need to use?  Or is there a way I can simply get the program 
> to output the start time and the last %tim tier for a group of files to an 
> excel sheet so that I can calculate the elapsed times quickly as a batch? 
>  I *could* have people go through them individually and make changes or 
> just calculate the times, but it is about 120 transcriptions.  I figured 
> some time investigating ways to automate this might be worth it.
>
> Thanks for any help!
> Brian
>
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