Question on the repeat symbol

[bwv141 at gmail.com]

Dear Brian,

Thank you for the response to my questions. I will mark these instances in 
the data as you have suggested and exclude them from MLU counts. 

Kind regards
Vic

On Tuesday, October 18, 2016 at 3:28:25 PM UTC+1, Brian MacWhinney wrote:
>
> Dear Vic,
>
> Yes, you are totally right about the difference between repetition as a 
> disfluency and purposeful repetition for emphasis.  The former is much much 
> more frequent than the latter.  I would not code purposeful repetition 
> using the [/] symbol.  In fact, one could argue that, in your example, each 
> case of “run” is its own one-word utterance and should be coded on a 
> separate line in the transcript.  
>
> In another posting today, you worry about something similar with number 
> enumerations.  This could also apply to picture naming.  Quite reasonably, 
> you are concerned about the ways in which this all could impact MLU 
> calculation.  For that purpose, I think it may make sense to mark all of 
> this one word enumerations and emphasis with the [+ exc] postcode to 
> exclude them from MLU counts.  Fortunately, this stuff is not all that 
> common, so adding this marking is not too onerous.
>
>  
>
> --Brian MacWhinney
>
>  
>
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> *Date: *Tuesday, October 18, 2016 at 8:41 AM
> *To: *ChiBolts <chib... at googlegroups.com <javascript:>>
> *Subject: *Re: Question on the repeat symbol
>
>  
>
> Hello,  
>
>  
>
> This question is related to Sabrina's original one. I am a little confused 
> about use of the repetition symbol [/]. It seems that retracing is 
> something different to simply repeating a word - perhaps for emphasis. Is 
> there a way to mark where a speaker repeats a word for emphasis (e.g., run 
> run run!) differently than retracing (e.g., I thought I thought that you 
> wanted to come)? Or does it not matter that the same symbol is used because 
> the point is to remove it from affecting MLU and other calculations?
>
>  
>
> Many thanks
>
> Vic
>
> On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 6:03:35 AM UTC+1, Spektor, Leonid: CMU wrote: 
>
> Sabrina,
>
>     To indicate that code in "[...]" refers to more than just one word you 
> need to enclose the phrase in "<...>" brackets. Your example you would look 
> like this:
>
> <the boy> [/] <the boy> [/] <the boy> [/]
>
> You can use single "[/]" code for each repetition or you can use "<the 
> boy> [x3]".
>
> Internally in CLAN the "<the boy> [x3]" is expanded to "<the boy> [/] <the 
> boy> [/] <the boy> [/]", so from CLAN's perspective those two 
> specifications are the same.
>
> Leonid.
>
>  
>
> On 06-07-16 23:57, Sabrina Sun wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
>    Thanks for your precious time in advance and my question is for the 
> repeat symbol [/]  is it generally used for single words only?  Or could it 
> apply to phrases/sets of words that are said repeatedly in an utterance 
> (like: the boy the boy the boy…)?  If so, how should it be typed to show 
> that this set of words is repeated?  Would it look like:
>
> the boy [/] the boy [/] the boy [/]
>
> also for single repeated words (boy boy boy) is it better to type all in 
> with the [/] following the repeats (boy boy [/] boy [/]) or to just type 
> the word once and indicate it is repeated ([/] or [x3])?
>
>  
>
> Thanks and looking forward to your comment.
>
>  
>
> best,
>
> Sabrina 
>
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