Having difficulty using KWAL command to search for strings which involve periods

Fri Apr 21 05:42:25 UTC 2017

Thanks again Brian. I'll give this a try.

Peredur

On Tuesday, 18 April 2017 13:44:36 UTC+8, Brian MacWhinney wrote:
>
> Peredur,
>
>  
>
> You can also do this with CHSTRING using this command:
>
>  
>
> chstring +t%aut +s"*.*" "*-*" *.cha +1
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>  
>
> Make a complete copy of all of your files before trying this, because the 
> +1 switch overwrites the originals, and there could be mistakes.
>
>  
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> You have to run that command several times to make sure you change all the 
> periods.
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>  
>
> GREP is a part of UNIX that uses REGEX (regular expressions) and there are 
> books about this.
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>  
>
> -- Brian
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> *From: *'Peredur Webb-Davies' via chibolts <chib... at googlegroups.com 
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> *Date: *Tuesday, 18 April 2017 at 1:16 PM
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> *Subject: *Re: Having difficulty using KWAL command to search for strings 
> which involve periods
>
>  
>
> Thanks Brian. Can you please point me to where I can learn about GREP 
> commands? I can't find a reference to them in the CHAT or CLAN manuals.
>
> Peredur
>
>
> On Tuesday, 18 April 2017 12:20:30 UTC+8, Brian MacWhinney wrote: 
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> Yes, the problem is your use of periods.  CLAN considers the period to be 
> a sentence delimiter.  I replaced them with a dash and then used the 
> command  
>
> kwal +s"see-V-INFIN*"  +t%aut test.cha
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> There were no problems.  The example with one line changed is attached.  
> It should easy enough to fix these using a GREP command.
>
>  
>
> -Brian MacWhinney
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>  
>
> *From: *'Peredur Webb-Davies' via chibolts <chib... at googlegroups.com>
> *Reply-To: *"chib... at googlegroups.com" <chib... at googlegroups.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, 18 April 2017 at 10:26 AM
> *To: *chibolts <chib... at googlegroups.com>
> *Subject: *Having difficulty using KWAL command to search for strings 
> which involve periods
>
>  
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to analyse our corpus of Welsh linguistic data which has been 
> coded using CHAT. The corpus has multiple secondary tiers, and one of them 
> is called %aut ('autoglossed tier') , which details word-by-word 
> morphological glossing for each item in the main tier.
>
> I want to use the KWAL command in CLAN to find certain items in the %aut 
> tier, namely (at the moment) to find pronouns. The aim is to then extract 
> the data from the relevant main tier, so that I have collated all tokens of 
> that pronoun from a given set of data. These pronouns have been glossed in 
> %aut in the format e.g. your.ADJ.POSS.2S for a 2nd person singular pronoun. 
> My assumption was that a command such as the following would find all items 
> matching the search string in the %aut tier in (e.g.) the file called 
> davies2ag.cha:
>
> kwal +t%aut +syour.ADJ.POSS.2S davies1ag.cha
>
> However, this gives no results - even though I know there are instances of 
> this token in that transcript. If you search for just +syour , for example, 
> it finds those results (but cannot disambiguate between 2nd singular and 
> plural forms, among other issues). I assume the problem is presence of the 
> periods/full stops in the %aut tier. 
>
> I have tried using "" around the search string, I have tried to replace 
> the stops with * and _ and ^_^, and I have also tried using COMBO instead 
> of KWAL, but nothing helps. It says no items found. 
>
> I assume that there is an obvious answer that my very limited knowledge of 
> coding is keeping from me, but if anyone can assist I would be hugely 
> grateful!
>
> I can supply more details as required.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Peredur Webb-Davies
>
> PS For info, here is a weblink to an example of a transcript, to show how 
> it has been glossed etc.: 
> http://bangortalk.org.uk/chats/siarad/davies2.cha 
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