Complex syntax

[Cynthia Core]

Thanks, Brian.

We just ran the frequency count for the grammatical complexity analysis on
our Spanish data, and we noticed that there were only two types of
complexity identified:
- CMOD and COMP

Other complex sentence types (e.g, XCOMP, NJCT, etc) are not present in the
output at all, so does that mean that those types are not identified by MOR?

We ran MOR on the files using the Spanish MOR library, then the frequency
for each identified syntactic type identified on the %gra tier. This
procedure worked well for English, but we just noticed that there were only
two types of complex sentences in the output files for Spanish.

You mentioned the procedure used for English might work reasonably well for
Spanish, so we are curious about the mismatch in the output.

Thanks,
Cynthia

On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Brian MacWhinney <macw at cmu.edu> wrote:

> Dear Cynthia,
>
> There is a short, medium, and a long answer to this.  The short answer is
> “no”, but that answer is quite misleading.  The medium answer is that the
> grammatical relations of Spanish, particularly on the interclausal level,
> are nearly the same as those for English.  Therefore, the routine for
> complexity computation presented in the CLAN manual should work nearly
> correctly for Spanish.  The longer answer is that I could spend time
> working on this, but not for several weeks.  Actually, that is not a long
> answer.  Rather, it is a short answer that points to a long timeframe.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> --Brian MacW
>
>
>
> *From: *<cynth.core at gmail.com> on behalf of "core at gwu.edu" <core at gwu.edu>
> *Reply-To: *ChiBolts <chibolts at googlegroups.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, August 23, 2017 at 2:42 PM
> *To: *ChiBolts <chibolts at googlegroups.com>
> *Subject: *Re: Complex syntax
>
>
>
> Is there a procedure for freq of complex syntax for *Spanish*? I'm
> looking for the equivalent of the MEGRASP/freq procedure to count clausal
> types in Spanish using the %gra tier.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Cynthia Core
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 9:39 PM, Brian MacWhinney <macw at cmu.edu> wrote:
>
> Yes, this is described in section 7.10.14 of the CLAN manual.
>
> --Brian MacWhinney
>
> On 8/3/17, 6:29 PM, "chibolts at googlegroups.com on behalf of Cynthia Core"
> <chibolts at googlegroups.com on behalf of cynth.core at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Hi -
>     Are there any commands that can help me count the number of sentence
> types - simple/complex and count different types of complex sentences? I
> see commands to calculate ratios of one two verb utterances and IPSYN, but
> I am looking for something that is more specific to syntactic diversity and
> clausal diversity  and that counts the number of complex versus simple
> sentences.
>
>     Thank you,
>     Cynthia Core
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Department of Speech and Hearing Science
The George Washington University
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