Frequency of words

Thu Sep 14 13:17:58 UTC 2017

Fantastic. I think the freq -s"<**>" -s"<: *>" +sfairy +sCinderella
+sstairs Content_Tester.cha is what I want!

Brie

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Leonid Spektor <spektor at andrew.cmu.edu>
wrote:

> Besides the command lines that I gave you in my previous email, the other
> solution is to use "furry [:: fairy]" coding. Notice two ':' characters
> instead of one. This code will tell MOR command to put the word "furry" on
> %mor tier instead of the word "fairy". This solution only works if the
> actual word spoken by a subject is a real word. Otherwise, you will get
> "?|..." on %mor tier meaning that the word is not recognized. Also, this
> solution will not ignore the error word as you seem to want to do.
>
> The question is whether you want to simply ignore the [: target] error
> word, like word "fairy", or do you want to ignore any erroneously spoken
> words altogether, like the whole "furry [:: fairy]" structure.
>
> If you want to ignore the whole erroneously spoken word, then you need to
> use one the command lines below depending on whether you want words from
> speaker tier or lemmas from %mor tier:
>
> freq -sm** -sm@* +sm;fairy +sm;Cinderella +sm;stair Content_Tester.cha
>
> freq -s"<**>" -s"<: *>" +sfairy +sCinderella +sstairs Content_Tester.cha
>
>
> Leonid.
>
> On Sep 14, 2017, at 07:28, Brielle Stark <brielle.stark at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, so I suppose what I am asking is whether there is something that can
> tell the mor command to be computed ignoring the [: target] errors? This is
> the only way I can think of solving my question.
> Thanks,
> Brie
>
> On Sep 13, 2017 16:51, "Leonid Spektor" <spektor at andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>
>> Brie,
>>
>> The answer depends on whether you are interested in words on speaker tier
>> or lemmas on %mor tier. Your command lines ask for both. I have changed you
>> sample file "Content_Tester.cha" by adding word "fairy" that is not an
>> error or a replacement, so you should get 1 "fairy" count in the output of
>> the following two command lines:
>>
>> For "fairy" lemmas, except errors and target replacement, you want:
>>
>> freq -sm** -sm@* +sm;fairy Content_Tester.cha
>>
>> For "fairy" words on speaker tier, except errors and target replacement,
>> you want:
>>
>> freq -s<**> -s<:*> +sfairy Content_Tester.cha
>>
>>
>> Leonid.
>>
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>> On Sep 13, 2017, at 13:49, Brielle Stark <brielle.stark at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all.
>>
>> I have a question about calculating word frequency. We're working with
>> aphasia participants who will often make mistakes, and when they do make
>> mistakes, we'll put in the intended word into [: target] if we know what
>> the intention was. However, I do not want to count [: target] words in the
>> frequency tally of words. Basically, if someone said furry [: fairy] in one
>> instance, and I am looking for a frequency count of the correctly spoken
>> 'fairy,' I want the frequency calculation for 'fairy' to be 0, thus
>> ignoring the word in the target. Further, I'd also like to run for lemmas
>> and not morphological changes. In other words, if I'm looking for "stair,"
>> I want 'stairs' to be counted in the frequency of 'stair' usage.
>>
>> *Detail:*
>>
>> When I run the command:
>>
>> *freq **-sm** -sm@* **+sCinderella +sstair +sfairy*
>>
>> on the attached transcript [completely made up, by the way], it evaluates
>> the %mor line but doesn't ignore the target [: target] words like I thought
>> it would. It does do the correct job in tagging 'stair' even though the
>> participant said 'stairs,' a correct usage from the %mor line. Output of
>> frequency for this command was:
>> Cinderella: 1
>> stair: 1
>> fairy: 1
>>
>> However, as I said, I wouldn't want the incorrect furry [: fairy] to
>> count. So, I tried:
>>
>> *freq -sm** -sm@* +t*PAR +sCinderella +sstair +sfairy*
>>
>> Now that I've told CLAN to stick to the speaker tier, it then ignores
>> 'stair' because 'stairs' was written, which isn't what we were going for.
>> However, it correctly does not look within the [: target] and correctly
>> states that 'fairy' was said 0 times. As an added point, I've also found
>> that when I run the above command on transcripts, it sometimes gets the
>> counts incorrect. For this command, I get the count:
>> Cinderella: 1
>> stair: 0
>> fairy: 0
>>
>> So basically, is there any way to tell CLAN to run the analysis on the
>> %mor tier for frequencies of words [specifically, lemmas], but somehow to
>> specify to ignore [: target] words on the speaker tier?
>>
>> In an ideal world, from the attached transcript, I'd be getting the
>> frequency counts as:
>> Cinderella: 1
>> stair: 1
>> fairy: 0
>>
>> Thank you very much,
>>
>> Brie
>>
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South Carolina
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Aphasia Lab: http://web.asph.sc.edu/aphasia/
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