Excluding utterances on PAR line

Leonid Spektor spektor at andrew.cmu.edu
Thu Dec 20 19:10:56 UTC 2018


Post-codes are an exception to regular codes. If you want to exclude data associated with post-codes, then you need these options:

-s"[+ exc]" -s"[+ per]" -s"[+ jargon]"

if you want to exclude post-code's codes themselves, i.e. "[+ exc]", "[+ per]" and "[+ jargon]", which is redundant, because they are excluded by default anyway, then you need  these options:

-s"<+ exc>" -s"<+ per>" -s"<+ jargon>"

Post-codes and pre-codes are treated differently than regular codes. If you are not sure, then I would suggest to just type a command, like FREQ, by itself in commands window and you will get quick description of what those options do. For example, if you type FREQ, then under line "+sS: search for word S in an input file." you will see description of differences between codes and post-codes.


Leonid.

> On Dec 20, 2018, at 13:19, brielle.stark <brielle.stark at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks. I tried as the FREQ command said, with;
> 
> freq +d2 *.cha  -s"<+ exc>" -s"<+ per>" -s"<+ jargon>" +t*PAR
> eval +t*PAR +u &.cha
> 
> when I did this, I got different utterance counts, which makes me think that the FREQ exclusion did not work. 
> 
> I appreciate your help, thanks.
> 
> On Tuesday, December 18, 2018 at 11:35:49 AM UTC-5, Leonid Spektor wrote:
> Yes, you need to specify post-codes to make FREQ exclude or include utterances with that post-code.
> 
> 
> Leonid.
> 
>> On Dec 18, 2018, at 09:47, brielle.stark <briell... at gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote:
>> 
>> Do I need to specify to exclude [+ exc] with 'freq'?
>> 
>> On Tuesday, December 18, 2018 at 9:46:58 AM UTC-5, brielle.stark wrote:
>> Perfect, thanks!
>> 
>> On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 10:18:50 PM UTC-5, Leonid Spektor wrote:
>> Brie,
>> 
>> 	EVAL, KIDEVAL and few other commands automatically excludes utterances marked with "[+ exc]" post-code. You do not need to specify it on the command line. The reason you got an error message is because we do not want post-codes used to include or exclude any other utterances by mistake.
>> 
>> 
>> Leonid.
>> 
>>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 14:21, brielle.stark <briell... at gmail.com <>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi there. I'm trying to exclude utterances on the PAR line tagged with + exc. According to the manual, and to the eval command, I've been doing:
>>> 
>>> eval +t*PAR -s"[+ exc]" +u *.cha
>>> 
>>> Am I doing something incorrect? Feedback from CLAN:
>>> 
>>> Please specify only precodes "[- ...]" with +/-s option.
>>> 
>>> Thank you very much!
>>> 
>>> Brie
>>> 
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