Excluding utterances on PAR line

Thu Dec 20 19:32:31 UTC 2018

I'm specifically referencing the *PAR column in the FREQ output as being 
different from the "Total Utt" column in the Eval. Essentially, the *PAR 
column in the FREQ output is always bigger than the "Total Utt" column, 
hence why i was thinking the +exc tiers weren't being excluded.

Thank you for your help.

Brie

On Thursday, December 20, 2018 at 2:10:59 PM UTC-5, Leonid Spektor wrote:
>
> Post-codes are an exception to regular codes. If you want to exclude data 
> associated with post-codes, then you need these options:
>
> -s"[+ exc]" -s"[+ per]" -s"[+ jargon]"
>
> if you want to exclude post-code's codes themselves, i.e. "[+ exc]", "[+ 
> per]" and "[+ jargon]", which is redundant, because they are excluded by 
> default anyway, then you need  these options:
>
> -s"<+ exc>" -s"<+ per>" -s"<+ jargon>"
>
> Post-codes and pre-codes are treated differently than regular codes. If 
> you are not sure, then I would suggest to just type a command, like FREQ, 
> by itself in commands window and you will get quick description of what 
> those options do. For example, if you type FREQ, then under line "+sS: 
> search for word S in an input file." you will see description of 
> differences between codes and post-codes.
>
>
> Leonid. 
>
> On Dec 20, 2018, at 13:19, brielle.stark <briell... at gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
> Thanks. I tried as the FREQ command said, with;
>
> freq +d2 *.cha  -s"<+ exc>" -s"<+ per>" -s"<+ jargon>" +t*PAR
> eval +t*PAR +u &.cha
>
> when I did this, I got different utterance counts, which makes me think 
> that the FREQ exclusion did not work. 
>
> I appreciate your help, thanks.
>
> On Tuesday, December 18, 2018 at 11:35:49 AM UTC-5, Leonid Spektor wrote:
>>
>> Yes, you need to specify post-codes to make FREQ exclude or include 
>> utterances with that post-code.
>>
>>
>> Leonid. 
>>
>> On Dec 18, 2018, at 09:47, brielle.stark <briell... at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Do I need to specify to exclude [+ exc] with 'freq'?
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 18, 2018 at 9:46:58 AM UTC-5, brielle.stark wrote:
>>>
>>> Perfect, thanks!
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 10:18:50 PM UTC-5, Leonid Spektor wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Brie,
>>>>
>>>> EVAL, KIDEVAL and few other commands automatically excludes utterances 
>>>> marked with "[+ exc]" post-code. You do not need to specify it on the 
>>>> command line. The reason you got an error message is because we do not want 
>>>> post-codes used to include or exclude any other utterances by mistake.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Leonid. 
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 17, 2018, at 14:21, brielle.stark <briell... at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi there. I'm trying to exclude utterances on the PAR line tagged with 
>>>> + exc. According to the manual, and to the eval command, I've been doing:
>>>>
>>>> *eval +t*PAR -s"[+ exc]" +u *.cha*
>>>>
>>>> Am I doing something incorrect? Feedback from CLAN:
>>>>
>>>> *Please specify only precodes "[- ...]" with +/-s option.*
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much!
>>>>
>>>> Brie
>>>>
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