Beginning and ending quotes in the %mor tier

[Daisuke Miyamoto]

Dear Mr. MacWhinney,

Thank you for your reply! Now everything is clear.

Best,
Daisuke Miyamoto
the University of Tokyo 

2021年12月17日金曜日 23:10:29 UTC+9 macw:

> Dear Daisuke,
> My apologies. I thought that I replied just after removing that material 
> from the manual. The file that is used to control this is called punct.cut. 
> The first two characters there are important for delineating pre and post 
> material and the comma is included there too. In general, commas should be 
> used sparingly, because they do impact the GRASP parse.
>
> — Brian MacWhinney
> Teresa Heinz Professor of Cognitive Psychology, 
> Language Technologies and Modern Languages, CMU
>
>
>
> > On Dec 17, 2021, at 2:04 AM, Daisuke Miyamoto <
> dmiy... at g.ecc.u-tokyo.ac.jp> wrote:
> > 
> > Dear all,
> > 
> > Two weeks ago, I sent an email asking you about the beginning and ending 
> quotations. Although I have not received any reply yet, I have confirmed 
> that the MOR manual has been updated and the begging and ending quotes have 
> been removed from the list. Thank you very much for checking that!
> > 
> > Now that begging and ending quotes do not have their own morphological 
> categories, the use of quotation marks in main lines does not seem to 
> affect the %mor and %gra tiers at all. Is my understanding correct?
> > 
> > Best,
> > Daisuke Miyamoto
> > the University of Tokyo
> > 2021年12月4日土曜日 12:39:36 UTC+9 Daisuke Miyamoto:
> > Hello everyone,
> > 
> > It's nice to meet you! I am a Japanese linguist working on creating CHAT 
> files for children's second language acquisition.
> > 
> > I would like to ask you about how beginning and ending quotes are 
> treated in the %mor tier. In p.11 of the MOR manual (
> https://doi.org/10.21415/T5B97X), it is said that the file punct.cut 
> contains the following entries as punctuation marks. 
> > 
> > „ {[scat end]} "end" 
> > ‡ {[scat beg]} "beg" 
> > , {[scat cm]} "cm" 
> > “ {[scat bq]} "bq" 
> > ” {[scat eq]} "eq" 
> > ‘ {[scat bq]} “bq2” 
> > ’ {[scat eq]} “eq2” 
> > 
> > But actually, punct.cut in my MOR folder (downloaded on 12th, August, 
> 2021) contains only the first three punctuations (end, beg, cm), and 
> neither beginning quotes nor ending quotes are included in it.
> > 
> > As a result, the following two main lines are indistinguishable in the 
> %mor tier:
> > 
> > *CHI: he said you are lucky „ didn't he ?
> > %mor: pro:sub|he v|say&PAST pro:per|you cop|be&PRES adj|luck&dn-Y end|end
> > mod|do&PAST~neg|not pro:sub|he ?
> > 
> > *CHI: he said “ you are lucky ” „ didn't he ?
> > %mor: pro:sub|he v|say&PAST pro:per|you cop|be&PRES adj|luck&dn-Y end|end
> > mod|do&PAST~neg|not pro:sub|he ?
> > 
> > Is this as expected? 
> > 
> > Best,
> > Daisuke Miyamoto
> > 
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