within-word coding in Mandarin transcripts
Leonid Spektor
spektor at andrew.cmu.edu
Mon Oct 25 18:54:23 UTC 2021
I have to add that FLUCALC will not work correctly no matter what option you choose, because it was designed to work for English language only.
Leonid.
> On Oct 25, 2021, at 12:51, Brian Macwhinney <macw at andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>
> Dear Peitzu,
> I am not recommending replacing the main line with thhe %ort line, but rather adding the %ort line with Pinyin to support disfluency coding. There is software that can do automatic recoding of Hanzi to Pinyin. I could discuss that with you separately, if you decide to go that way.
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> — Brian MacWhinney
> Teresa Heinz Professor of Cognitive Psychology,
> Computational Linguistics,
> and Modern Languages, CMU
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>> On Oct 25, 2021, at 12:39 PM, Pei-Tzu Tsai <peitzu.tsai at sjsu.edu <mailto:peitzu.tsai at sjsu.edu>> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you, Brian. I'm guessing the first option would then prevent flucalc from identifying the disfluencies since the coding is replaced. Please advise if there is a way around it. If we go with converting all samples to pinyin entirely, using the segmenter/translater command that runs in the terminal, is there any way we can at the same time convert the characters from the main tier to the %ort tier?
>> Peitzu
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 9:14:10 AM UTC-7 macw wrote:
>> Dear Peitzu,
>> There are two ways to do this. If you just want to do this occasionally for one or two words, you can use the form
>> ↫g↫gou3 [: 狗]
>> then MOR will ignore the ↫g↫gou3 and only make use of 狗.
>> Alternatively, if you want to study phonology systematically, you can create a complete %pho tier.
>> Your example also makes the important point that the systematic coding of disfluencies faces some challenges in Chinese and other languages with whole-character coding. I see that you are using disfluency coding for the repetition of the initial consonant. If you wanted to study this extensively, it might almost be best to create a secondary %ort line that would be the basis of a complete Pinyin transcription.
>>
>> — Brian MacWhinney
>>
>> > On Oct 23, 2021, at 1:01 AM, Pei-Tzu Tsai <peitz... at sjsu.edu <applewebdata://D64AD66F-DC8C-48A4-8ACF-9C834C18825A>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> > Is there any recommended way of coding Mandarin transcripts in Chinese characters at the sound level, while still running Mor successfully? For example, initial sound repetition in 狗 (↫g↫gou3) 看 到 了. We tried replacing the character with pinyin but Mor doesn't recognize it.
>> > Thanks,
>> > Peitzu
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