within-word coding in Mandarin transcripts

[Brian Macwhinney]

Correct. Moreover we have no comparison fluency data set for other languages, although there might be some eventually for Dutch. Supporting fluency analysis for Chinese would be a great thing for fluency research, but it would be a big project, hopefully supported by grants from China.

— Brian 
> On Oct 25, 2021, at 2:54 PM, Leonid Spektor <spektor at andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
> 
> I have to add that FLUCALC will not work correctly no matter what option you choose, because it was designed to work for English language only.
> 
> 
> Leonid.
> 
>> On Oct 25, 2021, at 12:51, Brian Macwhinney <macw at andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:macw at andrew.cmu.edu>> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Peitzu,
>>      I am not recommending replacing the main line with thhe %ort line, but rather adding the %ort line with Pinyin to support disfluency coding. There is software that can do automatic recoding of Hanzi to Pinyin.  I could discuss that with you separately, if you decide to go that way.
>> 
>> — Brian MacWhinney
>> Teresa Heinz Professor of Cognitive Psychology, 
>> Computational Linguistics, 
>> and Modern Languages, CMU
>> 
>>> On Oct 25, 2021, at 12:39 PM, Pei-Tzu Tsai <peitzu.tsai at sjsu.edu <mailto:peitzu.tsai at sjsu.edu>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you, Brian. I'm guessing the first option would then prevent flucalc from identifying the disfluencies since the coding is replaced. Please advise if there is a way around it. If we go with converting all samples to pinyin entirely, using the segmenter/translater command that runs in the terminal, is there any way we can at the same time convert the characters from the main tier to the %ort tier? 
>>> Peitzu
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 9:14:10 AM UTC-7 macw wrote:
>>> Dear Peitzu, 
>>> There are two ways to do this. If you just want to do this occasionally for one or two words, you can use the form 
>>> ↫g↫gou3 [: 狗] 
>>> then MOR will ignore the ↫g↫gou3 and only make use of 狗. 
>>> Alternatively, if you want to study phonology systematically, you can create a complete %pho tier. 
>>> Your example also makes the important point that the systematic coding of disfluencies faces some challenges in Chinese and other languages with whole-character coding. I see that you are using disfluency coding for the repetition of the initial consonant. If you wanted to study this extensively, it might almost be best to create a secondary %ort line that would be the basis of a complete Pinyin transcription. 
>>> 
>>> — Brian MacWhinney 
>>> 
>>> > On Oct 23, 2021, at 1:01 AM, Pei-Tzu Tsai <peitz... at sjsu.edu <applewebdata://6955916F-5E5F-4015-B5FE-BDB34CA88B9E>> wrote: 
>>> > 
>>> > Hi, 
>>> > Is there any recommended way of coding Mandarin transcripts in Chinese characters at the sound level, while still running Mor successfully? For example, initial sound repetition in 狗 (↫g↫gou3) 看 到 了. We tried replacing the character with pinyin but Mor doesn't recognize it. 
>>> > Thanks, 
>>> > Peitzu 
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