C-NNLA output measures
mara.st...@gmail.com
mara.steinberg at gmail.com
Wed Oct 12 15:24:29 UTC 2022
Thank you Leonid! I reran the files and the numbers look much closer to our
manual coding.
On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 8:02:54 PM UTC-4 Leonid Spektor wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The way C-NNLA computes columns "% sentences produced", "% sentences with
> correct syntax, semantics*", "% sentences with flawed syntax" and "%
> sentences with flawed semantics*" has been fixed. The bug had to do with
> word contractions. For example, when computing those particular columns
> for the word "she's" C-NNLA did not see the "~cop|be&3S" part of the word.
>
> This bug has been fixed and new CLAN has been updated on the web.
>
>
> Leonid.
>
> On Oct 7, 2022, at 12:17, mara.st... at gmail.com <mara.st... at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi chiblots,
>
> We were wondering if there was a way to determine which
> sentences/utterances are included in the output measures from C-NNLA.
> Specifically, we are looking at the % sentences with flawed syntax. We are
> getting a mismatch between our manual coding and the automated output and
> are wondering if we are coding something incorrectly or different than the
> program. We see the formula in the CLAN manual (p.119), but were unsure of
> exactly how the calculation works, especially in terms of which utterances/
> sentences get included (i.e., abandoned utterances, complete, etc.).
>
> In the example below, C-NNLA reported 100% as the output for % sentences
> with flawed syntax. Manually, we counted 11 utterances total from the
> participant, 5 were excluded using [+exc] since they were unrelated to the
> picture description and 3 were marked as ungrammatical [+gram]. That would
> leave 3 utterances that could be counted as grammatically correct but we
> are not sure if single word or fragmented utterances were counted. It seems
> like there’s at least one grammatically correct sentence (“she's just out
> of it” - but includes a revision) making the reported value of 100%
> possibly incorrect.
>
> *PAR: &-right now <where do I> [/] where do I put the <another> [>] +/. [+
> exc]
> *INV: <you need> [<] to tell me about it .
> *PAR: or just tell you about it . [+ exc]
> *PAR: sorry &=laughs . [+ exc]
> *PAR: the mum's not very clever because she's xxx xxx sink &=laughs . [+
> gram]
> *PAR: &-uh and the boys [: boy] [* m:+s] are [: is] [* m:vun:a] very
> naughty because they're [: he's] [* s:r:gc:pro] xxx the cookie jar and he's
> gonna fall off the +... [+ gram] [+ gcc]
> *PAR: I've done that before . [+ exc]
> *PAR: &-um yes .
> *PAR: and [e] &-yep xxx &+fai <the kid> [//] <the boy> [//] the &-um (.)
> girl was [: is] [* m] gaving [: giving] [* m] xxx her [//] him and her +...
> [+ gram]
> *PAR: and [e] &-you_know they're in the kitchen +...
> *PAR: she [//] she's just out of it .
> *PAR: &=laughs and that's about it . [+ exc]
> *INV: yep !
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> ~Mara Steinberg Lowe & Kirrie Ballard
>
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