repeated interjections and timestamps with Mac OS

Wed Aug 20 18:59:00 UTC 2025

I have changed FLUCAL to compute #_WWR correctly. New CLAN is on the web.

Leonid.

> On Aug 19, 2025, at 19:15, Nan Bernstein Ratner <nratner at umd.edu <mailto:nratner at umd.edu>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ryan - I think (but am not sure) that this "fluke" arose when we changed the notation of these behaviors to forbid the shorthand [x4] or similar after the Flucalc utility was written. Other advancements in CLAN that required alignment of the spoken main tier with elements on dependent tiers forced this new coding as the only option. Let me and the CMU crew think on this, because your conceptualization is correct - I concur - it is one event with 4 iterations.
> I apologize for the difficulty but thank you for calling this to our attention.
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> On Tue, Aug 19, 2025 at 5:32 PM Leonid Spektor <spektor at andrew.cmu.edu <mailto:spektor at andrew.cmu.edu>> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> 	In 2022-08-29 the decision was made to count WWR and WWR_RU that same way. I don't know why. The best person to explain this would be Prof. Nan Bernstein Ratner.
>> 
>> The other thing I wanted to point out is that &+... and &-... word are counted as Phonological_fragment and Filled_pauses respectively. All other &... words are filtered out.
>> 
>> I hope this helps.
>> 
>> 
>> Leonid.
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>>> On Aug 18, 2025, at 17:08, rmillager at gmail.com <mailto:rmillager at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Hello again,
>>>  
>>> Thanks to all for your responses to this question from several weeks ago.
>>>  
>>> A follow-up as I’m trying to understand exactly how Flucalc produces its output…
>>>  
>>> I’m not seeing a distinction between #WWR and #mono-WWR-RU, when I expect one. Let’s take this utterance as an example:
>>> *CHI:    he [/] he [/] he [/] he [/] he likes puppies.
>>>  
>>> After running mor and flucalc (+t*CHI), I’m getting #_WWR = 4 and #_WWR-RU = 4 for this utterance. From how I coded it, shouldn’t this utterance instead return #_WWR = 1, #_WWR-RU = 4? As in, this is one instance of stuttering with four iterations of a whole word repetition.
>>>  
>>> Let me know if you have any insights, or feedback for my ongoing CHAT coding! Thanks so much.
>>>  
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Ryan Millager
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: chibolts at googlegroups.com <mailto:chibolts at googlegroups.com> <chibolts at googlegroups.com <mailto:chibolts at googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brian Macwhinney
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2025 4:02 PM
>>> To: chibolts at googlegroups.com <mailto:chibolts at googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: repeated interjections and timestamps with Mac OS
>>>  
>>> Good questions.  If you sense that these are stuttering behaviors, then adding the [/] would make sense.  In any case, forms beginning with the & are filtered out of measures anyway, so perhaps either approach is okay.  
>>>  
>>> Regarding copying the timestamp markers from the media player, we did indeed use that method years ago and something similar was done when we used Walker Controller.  However, with the shift to transcription and alignment through ASR, there are now better and faster ways to get time marks into transcripts.  
>>>  
>>> —Brian MacWhinney
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>>>> On Jun 12, 2025, at 4:51 PM, Ryan Millager <rmillager at gmail.com <mailto:rmillager at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Hi folks --
>>>>  
>>>> Two questions as I'm working with graduate coders on a dissertation project with a focus on stuttering:
>>>> When coding whole-word, stuttering-like repetitions, we use [/] as in "*CHI: he [/] he [/] he likes puppies." Should we also use [/] for repeated stuttering-like interjections, as with "*CHI: he &-um [/] &-um [/] &-um likes puppies"? or just give three iterations of &-um without the [/]? To be clear, this is for instances where the quality is stuttering-like but there is not any obvious block (i.e., distinct from "&-≠um").
>>>> When tweaking timestamps in CLAN on my PC, it is extremely helpful to be able to copy/paste the timestamp marker in the linked media player (see screenshot of a sample video attached). When my research assistants use CLAN on their MacBooks, however, the linked media player does not show a timestamp that they can copy/paste and it makes adjusting these values more cumbersome in the transcript. Is anyone aware of a way to reveal the timestamp value in the media player on a Mac?
>>>> Thank you so much!
>>>>  
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Ryan
>>>>  
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