repeated interjections and timestamps with Mac OS

Tue Aug 19 23:15:26 UTC 2025

Hi Ryan - I think (but am not sure) that this "fluke" arose when we changed
the notation of these behaviors to forbid the shorthand [x4] or similar
after the Flucalc utility was written. Other advancements in CLAN that
required alignment of the spoken main tier with elements on dependent tiers
forced this new coding as the only option. Let me and the CMU crew think on
this, because your conceptualization is correct - I concur - it is one
event with 4 iterations.
I apologize for the difficulty but thank you for calling this to our
attention.

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On Tue, Aug 19, 2025 at 5:32 PM Leonid Spektor <spektor at andrew.cmu.edu>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> In 2022-08-29 the decision was made to count WWR and WWR_RU that same way.
> I don't know why. The best person to explain this would be Prof. Nan
> Bernstein Ratner.
>
> The other thing I wanted to point out is that &+... and &-... word are
> counted as Phonological_fragment and Filled_pauses respectively. All other
> &... words are filtered out.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
>
> Leonid.
>
> On Aug 18, 2025, at 17:08, rmillager at gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hello again,
>
> Thanks to all for your responses to this question from several weeks ago.
>
> A follow-up as I’m trying to understand exactly how Flucalc produces its
> output…
>
> I’m not seeing a distinction between #WWR and #mono-WWR-RU, when I expect
> one. Let’s take this utterance as an example:
> **CHI:    he [/] he [/] he [/] he [/] he likes puppies.*
>
> After running *mor* and *flucalc (+t*CHI)*, I’m getting #_WWR = 4 *and* #_WWR-RU
> = 4 for this utterance. From how I coded it, shouldn’t this utterance
> instead return #_WWR = 1, #_WWR-RU = 4? As in, this is one instance of
> stuttering with four iterations of a whole word repetition.
>
> Let me know if you have any insights, or feedback for my ongoing CHAT
> coding! Thanks so much.
>
> Sincerely,
> Ryan Millager
>
>
>
> *From:* chibolts at googlegroups.com <chibolts at googlegroups.com> *On Behalf
> Of *Brian Macwhinney
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 12, 2025 4:02 PM
> *To:* chibolts at googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: repeated interjections and timestamps with Mac OS
>
> Good questions.  If you sense that these are stuttering behaviors, then
> adding the [/] would make sense.  In any case, forms beginning with the &
> are filtered out of measures anyway, so perhaps either approach is okay.
>
> Regarding copying the timestamp markers from the media player, we did
> indeed use that method years ago and something similar was done when we
> used Walker Controller.  However, with the shift to transcription and
> alignment through ASR, there are now better and faster ways to get time
> marks into transcripts.
>
> —Brian MacWhinney
>
>
> On Jun 12, 2025, at 4:51 PM, Ryan Millager <rmillager at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi folks --
>
> Two questions as I'm working with graduate coders on a dissertation
> project with a focus on stuttering:
>
>    - When coding whole-word, stuttering-like repetitions, we use [/] as
>    in "*CHI: he [/] he [/] he likes puppies." *Should we also use [/] for
>    repeated stuttering-like interjections*, as with "*CHI: he &-um [/]
>    &-um [/] &-um likes puppies"? or just give three iterations of &-um without
>    the [/]? To be clear, this is for instances where the quality is
>    stuttering-like but there is not any obvious block (i.e., distinct from
>    "&-≠um").
>    - When tweaking timestamps in CLAN on my PC, it is extremely helpful
>    to be able to copy/paste the timestamp marker in the linked media player
>    (see screenshot of a sample video attached). When my research assistants
>    use CLAN on their MacBooks, however, the linked media player does not show
>    a timestamp that they can copy/paste and it makes adjusting these values
>    more cumbersome in the transcript. *Is anyone aware of a way to reveal
>    the timestamp value in the media player on a Mac?*
>
> Thank you so much!
>
> Sincerely,
> Ryan
>
>
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