Differences in MOR output using macOS and Linux

Fri Jan 24 14:17:59 UTC 2025

That's great Leonid, thanks ! I'll test it on Tuesday and let you know !

Cheers

El vie, 24 ene 2025, 7:01, Leonid Spektor <spektor at andrew.cmu.edu> escribió:

> Hi Leandro,
>
> I have finally found the problem and fixed it. I have tested it on Mac
> Unix. I assume it will also work on Linux. Let me know if you have any
> problems with Unix CLAN. New UnixCLAN is on the web.
>
>
> Leonid.
>
> On Jan 23, 2025, at 16:31, Leandro Garber <leandrogarber at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Leonid, thank you very much for your reply.
>
> I think you are on the right track, I recall the differences could be
> caused by something like that. I don't know the technical details about
> lexicon implementations but I can check it out as well and see if I
> discover something.
> I can send you examples next Tuesday that I'll be on my office computer.
>
> Right now I just remember there were problems with some diminutives (i.e
> perro (dog) -> perrito (little dog)) (not all)
>
> I'm glad you have the time to work on this.
> Best,
> L.
>
>
>
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> El jue, 23 ene 2025 a la(s) 6:22 p.m., Leonid Spektor (
> spektor at andrew.cmu.edu) escribió:
>
>> Hi Leandro,
>>
>> I am still trying to figure out why Mac/Windows and Unix outputs are
>> different. I noticed that on Mac/Windows words with accents like "móntale"
>> and striped of accents and are converted to stem "monta". The word
>> "móntale" is not in the lexicon, so striping accents occurs before the word
>> is looked up in the lexicon list. On Unix the accents are not striped, so
>> MOR can't find "móntale" word anywhere in the Spanish lexicon. I did not
>> create Spanish grammar, so it takes a long time for me to figure out where
>> the conversion occurs.
>>
>> Is this the difference in Windows and Linux you are noticing? Or can you
>> give me an example of the difference in outputs that you are referring to
>> in your email?
>>
>> I just wanted to let you know that I am still working on this.
>>
>>
>> Leonid.
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2025, at 12:21, Leandro Garber <leandrogarber at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone, I hope you are starting 2025 great.
>>
>> Just wanted to report that I've just downloaded the latest Linux version
>> and I'm getting different outputs on Linux compared to Windows (not Mac
>> this time as the title suggests). I've been able to run Windows version
>> with Wine emulator in order to do the comparison.
>>
>> On linux I'm running:
>>
>> /path/to/mor -L/path/to/lib/spa my_cha_file.cha
>> /path/to/post +d/path/to/lib/spa/post.db my_cha_file.cha
>> /path/to/postmortem -L/path/to/lib/spa my_cha_file.cha
>> /path/to/megrasp -L/path/to/lib/spa my_cha_file.cha
>>
>> Am I missing something?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> L.
>> El Tuesday, December 28, 2021 a la(s) 4:29:28 PM UTC-3, Leandro Garber
>> escribió:
>>
>>> That was fast.
>>>
>>> I've just downloaded it, compiled it, and yes, it works like a charm.
>>> Files are identical now.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help and happy new year.
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> El mar, 28 dic 2021 a las 15:47, Leonid Spektor (<spe... at andrew.cmu.edu>)
>>> escribió:
>>>
>>>> The Unix bug has been fixed. New UNIX code is on the web.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Leonid.
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 28, 2021, at 13:38, Leandro Garber <leandr... at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Brian and Leonid for your time, I hope I didn't spoil your
>>>> holidays !
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Leandro.
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> El mar, 28 dic 2021 a las 15:21, Leonid Spektor (<spe... at andrew.cmu.edu>)
>>>> escribió:
>>>>
>>>>> Apparently there is a bug in Unix MOR code that fails to read pre-post
>>>>> rules file. I am working on this right now and I will let everyone know
>>>>> when it is fixed.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Leonid.
>>>>>
>>>>> > On Dec 28, 2021, at 13:17, Brian Macwhinney <ma... at andrew.cmu.edu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I guess Leonid didn’t include PREPOST in the Unix distribution.  We
>>>>> are all on vacation this week and next.  Any chance you could rely on Mac
>>>>> OS instead?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > — Brian
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> On Dec 28, 2021, at 12:33 PM, Leandro Garber <leandr... at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Dear Brian,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Thanks for your quick response. I can't find a "prepost" binary in
>>>>> my bin folder, is it named something different ?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Best Regards,
>>>>> >> Leandro.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> --
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>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> El mar, 28 dic 2021 a las 13:57, Brian Macwhinney (<
>>>>> ma... at andrew.cmu.edu>) escribió:
>>>>> >> Dear Leandro,
>>>>> >>    It appears that on Linux, you are not running the PREPOST
>>>>> program, which is a step in the MOR-PREPOST-POST-POSTMORTEM-MEGRASP chain
>>>>> on Mac.  For your two examples, I think that the Mac version is better.
>>>>> So, I would recommend either relying on that or else running PREPOST on
>>>>> Linux also.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> — Brian MacWhinney
>>>>> >> Teresa Heinz Professor of Cognitive Psychology,
>>>>> >> Language Technologies and Modern Languages, CMU
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> On Dec 28, 2021, at 11:47 AM, Leandro Garber <leandr... at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Hi everyone,
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> We are processing some CHA files with MOR and we are finding
>>>>> differences between the same files processed on Linux and on MacOS.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Both using the latest version of MOR for english downloaded from
>>>>> https://talkbank.org/morgrams/
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Some examples:
>>>>> >>> -------------------
>>>>> >>> *FA1:        well it ended up there in your pile
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> MacOS:
>>>>> >>> %mor:        co|well pro:per|it v|end-PAST prep|up n|there prep|in
>>>>> det:poss|your
>>>>> >>>        n|pile .
>>>>> >>> Linux:
>>>>> >>> %mor:        co|well pro:per|it v|end-PAST adv|up adv|there prep|in
>>>>> >>>        det:poss|your n|pile .
>>>>> >>> ------------------------------
>>>>> >>> *MA1:        Morgan doesn't bite .
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> MacOS:
>>>>> >>> %mor:        n:prop|Morgan mod|do&3S~neg|not v|bite .
>>>>> >>> Linux:
>>>>> >>> %mor:        n:prop|Morgan mod|do&3S~neg|not n|bite .
>>>>> >>> -------------------------------
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> We are using CLAN from the UI in macOS and on Linux we are using:
>>>>> >>> mor +L/path/to/lib/eng [chaFilePath]
>>>>> >>> post +d/path/to/lib/eng/post.db [chaFilePath]
>>>>> >>> postmortem +L/path/to/lib/eng $1
>>>>> >>> megrasp +L/path/to/lib/eng $1
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> We found that on Linux post, postmortem and megrasp don't
>>>>> automatically run so we manually do it.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Am I missing something ? Shouldn't the output be the same ?
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>> >>> Leandro.
>>>>> >>>
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