'Dutchman' & 'camosun' / was / Re: Trade beads
drobert at TINCAN.TINCAN.ORG
Fri Mar 12 06:16:14 UTC 1999
Well howdley doodley,
Hayash mehrsi khapa uk Mike pus yaka wawa "Dutchman". Thanks to Mike for
Ukuk tEnEs-pulakli nayka tEmtEm khapa uk Halq'EmeylEm / SqajEt nim
"DEdichbEd"; Walt Williams ya-yaXwEl ukuk. This evening I was thinking of
the Halkomelem / Skagit (Salishan) name "DEdichbEd"; it was Walt Williams'
Lush pus na-chaku-kEmtEks, pus ChInUk wawa ukuk. I'd like to find out if
this was a Chinook Jargon word in origin.
Na-tIki wawa kakwa: Pus ya-chaku khapa BastEn / Kinchoch wawa, pi khapa
yawa yaka Latuwa khapa Selish. I mean: Whether it came from English
into the Jargon, then went into Salish from there.
Lush nanich, uk Selish tIlxam Las-munk uk wa kakwa pus dret Selish. Note
that the Salish made this word into a virtually Salish word...
Kakwa, bastEn wawa "dEchmEn" =>
chInUk wawa "dEchmEn" =>
sqajEt (dxwlEshucid) wawa "dEchbEd" =>
sqajEt / halq!EmeylEm => (sqajEt) "dEdichbEd" ("tEnEs dEchmEn").
So, English "dutchman" =>
Chinook Jargon "dEchmEn" =>
Skagit (Lushootseed) "dEchbEd" =>
Skagit / Halkomelem "dEdichbEd" ("little Dutchman").
Lush wik mca-kapit-kEmtEks, "dEchmEn" khapa ChInUk wawa kakwa "Xluwima
tkop man; wik BastEn / Pasayuks / Kinchoch." Remember, in Chinook Jargon
"Dutchman" meant "other white people; not American / British / French."
Alta khapa ixt Xluwima ikta: Now about something else:
"Bohemian" / Czech / Moravian beads were the real hot item, indeed. Now,
they likely could have been referred to as not only kamosEk / kamosEn
(Original name of one of the towns now called Vancouver was Fort Camosun,
eh?), but also "Dutchman beads" / "dEchmEn kamosEk" etc.
I.e. "not made by the whites you normally deal with"!
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