Gibbs

[Ros' Haruo]

My apologies.

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>From: "Tom Larsen" <bvtl at odin.pdx.edu>
>To: "Ros' Haruo" <lilandbr at HOTMAIL.COM>
>Subject: Re:      Gibbs
>Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:08:03 -0700
>
>No, I am NOT assuming they are the same.  In fact, I am not assuming
>anything.  As you yourself can find in any decent bibliographic database,
>these are two separate books, both first published in 1863 by Cramoisy
>Press, dealing with two different languages.  The Alphabetical Vocabulary
>of
>the Chinook Language (23 pages, Shea's Library of American Linguistics,
>vol.
>XIII), deals with the Lower Chinook language.  Though it is said to have
>been published "under the auspices of the Smithsonian Institution", it
>apparently was not actually published by the Smithsonian. The Dictionary of
>the Chinook Jargon (43 pages, Shea's Library of American Linguistics, vol.
>XII) deals with Chinook JARGON. The latter was published simultaneously by
>both Cramoisy Press and the Smithsonian Instution.  The edition published
>by
>the Smithsonian was published as Smithsonian Institution Publication, no.
>161. Gibb's Dictionary of the Chinook Jargon was also republished a number
>of times subsequent to 1863 by various publishers, and was also "pirated"
>and published by other publishers under different titles by different
>"authors" many times throughout the 19th and 20th centuries.
>
>Tom Larsen
>
>Database Management and Catalog Librarian
>Branford Price Millar Library
>Portland State University
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>  email: larsent at pdx.edu
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ros' Haruo" <lilandbr at HOTMAIL.COM>
>To: <CHINOOK at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG>
>Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 7:21 PM
>Subject: Gibbs
>
>
> > In what ways does the "Alphabetical Vocabulary" differ from the
> > "Dictionary"? It looks to me as if Tom is assuming they are the same (or
>at
> > least, substantially the same) while Jeff and Henry view them as
>distinct
> > publications. Is one notably more complete, or better edited, than the
> > other? More "scholarly"? (Whatever that might have meant in 1863 in the
> > context...)
> >
> > lilEnd
> >
> >
> >         ROS' Haruo / 204 N 39th / Seattle WA 98103 / Usono
> >     lilandbr at scn.org / lilandbr at hotmail.com / tel 206-633-2434
> > TTT-Himnaro Cigneta : http://www.geocities.com/cigneto/pretaj.html
> > Nove en La Lilandejo : http://www.geocities.com/lilandr/novaj.html
> >       ("la Esperantisto antauxe nomata Liland Brajant Ros'")
> >
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