KIWA

[Leanne Riding]

I looked through some of the books which are accessible on the web, and
I did find this, which dates from sometime before 1849. I'm not sure if
this list was taken by Ross himself, because it was in the Appendix:

Good .... E-toukety
Bad ..... Mass-atsy

(Ross, 324-325)

Ross, Alexander. "Ross's Adventures of the first settlers on the Oregon
or Columbia River, 1810-1813 : Chinook Vocabulary." Early western
travels, 1748-1846. Volume 7. Cleveland, Ohio, A. H. Clark, 1904.
321-329. [http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.gdc/lhbtn.th007_0015] This is part of
the digital collection at American Memory, Library of Congress. The 1849
edition is at Gottinger Digitaliserungs-Zentrum, and the example there
is on page 345.

-- Leanne (http://timetemple.com)



On Wednesday, July 28, 2004, at 02:32 , hzenk at PDX.EDU wrote:

> I wanted to jump into this awhile back, but was out of town and didn't
> have the
> right notes.  The issue of whether an English spelling points to Chinuk
> Wawa or
> another indigenous language also arises for two placenames in the
> central
> Oregon Cascades, traditional Molala country (Molalas were hunters who
> lived in
> small groups scattered along the slopes of the Oregon Cascades; most
> were
> removed to Grand Ronde Res. in the mid-19th c., except for a group that
> went to
> Klamath Res. and others that stayed or drifted back to their original
> home
> territories).  The names are:
>
> 1. Toketee Falls (North Fork of Umpqua R.), for which MacArthur's Oregon
> Geographic Names cites CW "Toke-tie, pretty" (Gibbs's spelling), a word
> I've
> never heard anyone use and which even Gibbs says was unusual.
>
> 2. Tuckta Trail (Near Oakridge, OR).
>
> Both of these names could also be taken as suggesting Molala tae:qti-,
> ta:qti-
> 'above, high up'.  This fits geographically, as both names are in
> traditional
> Molala territory.  Of course, it's easy to imagine "Toketee Falls" being
> named when someone fished out their English-orthography "Chinook"
> dictionary--of which there were many, but almost all based more-or-less
> on
> Gibbs.  On the other hand, the spelling doesn't quite match Gibbs's,
> and the
> identification could have resulted from later reinterpretation.  If the
> name
> goes way back to the pioneer period, I would think that would probably
> strengthen the case for a Molala etymology.  On the other hand, if it
> is just
> from some Forest Service map-maker, it's probably out of a dictionary.
>
> Anyway, does anyone know anything about the history of either of these
> names?
> Henry
>

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