CJ letter from Barman

[Bruce, Colin]

I've wondered before if there are any other words from Chinese pidgin in CJ.
I think I've seen By-n-by in some accounts of Shanghai pidgin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ross Clark (FOA DALSL) [mailto:r.clark at auckland.ac.nz]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 3:35 PM
To: 'Bruce, Colin'; CHINOOK at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
Subject: RE: CJ letter from Barman




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce, Colin [mailto:Colin.Bruce at FRASERHEALTH.CA]
> Sent: Friday, 26 March 2004 8:00 a.m.
> To: CHINOOK at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: CJ letter from Barman
>
>
> I've noticed and letter uses a word "Chaw" which looks like
> it's in place of chahgo.  The letter mentions New West which
> I'm assuming is in the Fraser Valley.

This is New Westminster, a town SE of Vancouver on the Fraser River. The
Brunette River/Creek, also mentioned in the letter, flows out of Burnaby
Lake and into the Fraser just east of New Westminster.

I am interested in the occurrence of "all-the-same" in this text, a
Chinese/Pacific pidgin word. How common is this in CJ?

By the way, I tried my hand at transcribing and translating this just to see
how it would go. There were many difficulties. Would someone more expert
than I am care to post their version so we can compare notes?

Ross Clark

 Boas' collection of CJ
> songs from New West translated "Dza" to mean "come on".  Was
> this a Fraser Valley abbreviation for Chahgo?  If it is it's
> very convenient for the passive.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Lewis [mailto:coyotez at DARKWING.UOREGON.EDU]
> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 12:21 PM
> To: CHINOOK at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
> Subject: CJ letter from Barman
>
>
> Klahowya Tillicums and Bostons,
> I have received this letter from Jean Barman at UBC. She is
> requesting a translation. The letter looks fairly easy to
> translate. Please return your translations to me. The letter
> is at; http://kalapuya.com/ChinookJargon.htm
>
> Thanks,
> David Lewis
>