mystery "French" in Wawa
Anthony Grant
Granta at EDGEHILL.AC.UK
Fri Jun 13 18:44:17 UTC 2008
Folks:
Just to add a bit to Robert Kentta's posting:
Susan Fuller provides Leo Frahctenberg with a short vocabulary of Siletz Salishan (a variety of Tillamook). Daisy Collins helped out her brother Miller Collins (who was a preacher in some Pentecostal church, I seem to recall) when Swadesh and Melton interviewed Miller Collins and got Tututni data for the Penutian Vocabulary Survey. (I know Tututni isn't Penutian, nor are Galice and Northern Paiute, which they also recorded - but I'mglad they took the time.)
Anthony
>>> Robert Kentta <rkentta at CTSI.NSN.US> 06/13/08 5:19 AM >>>
hzenk at PDX.EDU wrote:
> I was wondering whether anyone out on the list has a clue about the
> following three words, all collected as Wawa by John P. Harrington on
> the lower Columbia and Oregon Coast in 1942 (these are from the
> Harrington Papers, mf rolls 17 and 18):
>
> lident 'dandelion' (given by Louis Fuller, who also spoke Salmon R
> Tillamook).
>
> labins 'beans' (also Louis Fuller).
>
> lapeyl 'can (for cooking in)' (Joe Peter, a Cowlitz living at Yakima
> Res).
>
>
> All three words appear to have French articles, but I don't find
> anything like them in my French dictionary. Are they Canadianisms?
> Local coinings? (Since so many nouns for introduced items are from
> French, there may be a tendency to adopt the French article as a sort
> of noun-classifier for such words). Henry
>
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Louie Fuller was from here at the Siletz Reservation, and was the son of
John Fuller, a Salmon River Tillamook headman. There were Clatsop
connections in the family (his mother?, grandmother???). There was
rumored to have been french ancestry, but that may have been a mistake -
or based on conjecture. Louie had a brother named
Michel/Michael/Machelle - I've seen all spellings. Michel LaFramboise of
HBC may have been familiar to the family in the early days. Louie
married a SW Oregon Athapascan woman from Siletz (Daisy Collins-Fuller),
and their children learned both Tillamook and Tututni languages - as
well as CJ. Harry Fuller lived to be fairly old, and passed here 6 or 8
years ago. He didn't speak any English until he went to school....said
he "had a hell of a time" trying to learn English.
Robert Kentta
Siletz
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