Need word for generation/generations
Marilyn Fitze
fitzerm2000 at YAHOO.COM
Fri Mar 28 21:59:57 UTC 2008
Is there a Chinook Jargon word for generation and generations?
Thank you
Marilyn
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Topics of the day:
1. Nordhoff, Charles. "Northern California, Oregon and the Sandwich Islands"
2. Unusual sidelight on Hyasman
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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 07:15:07 -0800
From: Scott Tyler <s.tylermd at COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Nordhoff, Charles. "Northern California, Oregon and the Sandwich Islands"
Thats an entertaining introduction to the Washington Territory.
On the Olympic Peninsula it is even more fun---Chimicum, Moclips, Taholah,
LaPush, Ozette, Clallam Bay, Neah Bay (Nunez de Gaona Bahia Blanka), Pysht,
Elwa, Hoh.
It would be nice to put up signs like Sasquatch Crossing---where locals have
seen these beings.
Scott
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From: "Dave Robertson" <ddr11 at UVIC.CA>
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Subject: Nordhoff, Charles. "Northern California, Oregon and the Sandwich
Islands"
> Available as a free e-book reprint at
> http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/13222.
>
> New York: Harper & Brothers, 1875.
>
> His impression of local place names in Washington Territory, including
> those
> from Chinook Jargon, is amusing:
>
> "When, at Kalama, you enter Washington Territory, your ears begin to be
> assailed by the most barbarous names imaginable. On your way to Olympia
> by rail you cross a river called the Skookum-Chuck; your train stops at
> places named Newaukum, Tumwater, and Toutle; and if you seek further, you
> will hear of whole counties labeled Wahkiakum, or Snohomish, or Kitsap, or
> Klikatat; and Cowlitz, Hookium, and Nenolelops greet and offend you. They
> complain in Olympia that Washington Territory gets but little immigration;
> but what wonder? What man, having the whole American continent to chose
> from, would willingly date his letters from the county of Snohomish, or
> bring up his children in the city of Nenolelops? The village of Tumwater
> is, as I am ready to bear witness, very pretty indeed; but surely an
> emigrant would think twice before he established himself either there or
> at Toutle. Seattle is sufficiently barbarous; Steilacoom is no better; and
> I suspect that the Northern Pacific Railroad terminus has been fixed at
> Tacoma--if it is fixed there--because that is one of the few places
> on Puget Sound whose name does not inspire horror and disgust."
>
> Is "Nenolelops" a version of "Humptulips"? Or maybe a separate Lower
> Chehalis name?
>
> Also, add this book's misspelling "Chistook" to your synonymy for
> "Chinook".
>
> --Dave R
>
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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:27:01 -0400
From: Dave Robertson <ddr11 at UVIC.CA>
Subject: Unusual sidelight on Hyasman
That's a Jargon surname we've talked about before. (See the archives of
this list.)
http://tokencatalog.com/display_records.php?SearchString=hyasman&SubmitFilter=Search&action=DisplayRecords
Here's a listing, in a catalog of Washington tokens, of a 5-cent piece for
trade with "Frank Hyasman" of Taholah.
There are also tokens listed from Pilchuck, Washington and a Pilchuck Saloon
in Woodland, WA.
I also noticed one from The Tyee in Seattle.
So there's a bit of a Jargon presence in early Washington numismatics!
By the way, when I was out walking in Spokane with my kids the other day, we
found what must be an old garbage dump containing LOTS of antique bottles,
buttons, china, and cans. Some must be a century old, judging by a few
minutes of googling. (Now I realize that some other items I've picked up by
the Spokane River etc. must be equally old.)
This reminded me of the infamous "Waw-Waw" bottle that we've discussed in
the past. Now that there's lots more info on the Internet, including some
very clear images, it appears that that bottle had no relation to Chinook
Jargon. It's from a popular manufacturer of hot sauce!
--Dave R
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