[Corpora-List] Corpora Digest, Vol 52, Issue 3
Alberto Simões
albie at alfarrabio.di.uminho.pt
Sun Oct 2 19:56:16 UTC 2011
On 02/10/2011 20:33, Khurshid Ahmad wrote:
> Dear Yorick
> Things are becoming really serious here: Grad students suggesting that the
> rejection of a leading prof's paper will ruin his/her career? Are we not
> teaching our grad students that critical inquiry should be conducted
> without fear or favour?
>
> The pressure to be metricated by 'publications' is such that academics
> plan their research publications around major 'conferences'. Is this
> beacuse conference reviewers are more lenient than journal reviewers and
> that conferences have a shorter turn-around time? I think reviewer
> anonymity, often abused and laborious, might just help the grad student to
> yell that the king-professor has no clothes! And in some cases the
> king-professor might just look at the review.
Also, note there is always the possibility of stating conflict of
interest, if the reviewer is not comfortable with the task.
Cheers
ambs
>
> Best wishes
>
>
>
>> There may be a cultural difference here between countries and continents:
>> in an ideal world a senior person getting a very penetrating and critical
>> review from a (known) grad student or junior faculty member would probably
>> seek to hire them--in terms of Popperian principles. Whether or not I am
>> right about the world spread of ideal behavior---- and I think i know
>> pretty well how it distributes, as do we all--nothing whatever can be
>> done about it. Which, alas, make uniform reviewing practice for
>> international conferences very hard--as we know, and this is there we came
>> in to the movie......
>> Yorick Wilks
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2 Oct 2011, at 19:06, Robert Zimbardo wrote:
>>
>>> The moment reviewer names would not be anonymous anymore, I would stop
>>> to review. As a young scholar, who could afford to non-anonymously
>>> reject a paper/abstract by [insert big name here] without fearing that
>>> that will backfire when application/postdoc renewal times are
>>> approaching? At any career level, who could afford to non-anonymously
>>> review a paper or book (proposal) by [insert big name here] negatively
>>> without fearing a negative backlash when tenure/promotion letters are
>>> up? Who can afford to maybe have annoyed someone who will be on an ESF
>>> panel and 'retaliate'? And all of this is independent of whether the
>>> reviewer is right or not, humans all too often retaliate even if they
>>> are treated 'correctly'. What other reason would there be that pretty
>>> much all reviews on LinguistList these days are by younger scholars
>>> (who want to get the books cheap) and of course positive?
>>>
>>> AS> It seems you have not carefully read this thread and are just
>>> reacting in anger.
>>> A truly scientific and pertinent statement that you had better made
>>> anonymously ...
>>>
>>> It surprises me how anyone can not see that double-blind reviewing is
>>> the only way to go unless one wants to run the risk of breeding
>>> in-groups and issuing gagging orders: it protects younger/less-known
>>> scholars from being categorised by 'virtue' of 'not being well-known',
>>> 'not being from the right country', and it protects reviewers from
>>> retaliation. Plus, I wonder how much the mere allegation by Yorick
>>> that it is so easy to recognise authors is just not a cognitive bias;
>>> making such an assertion does certainly not make that a fact (I
>>> usually just make the opposite experience) and Graeme made that point
>>> better than I could have. Even if some authors or reviewers were
>>> recognisable from their submission or review, those who are not are
>>> still protected and the 'undignifying' writing by not quoting oneself
>>> that much, cmon please ... Are people here seriously saying that
>>> paraphrasing two sentences and changing their precious name into
>>> [anonymized] is too much to protect especially younger scholars from
>>> bias and retaliation? Please tell me we are not that self-absorbed and
>>> self-confident in our we-would-never-do-that stance. Plus, could there
>>> be a reason they do that in most other disciplines?
>>>
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> Khurshid Ahmad
>
> Professor of Computer Science
> Department of Computer Science
> Trinity College,
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> IRELAND
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