[Corpora-List] corpora-list: publishing lists of accepted and rejected papers

[Anil Singh]

I would only support making public the list of rejected papers if all of
these things hapeen:

1. The (signed) reviews are also made public
2. The authors' responses to the reviews and the decision (and any other
explanations/clarifications/confessions they might want to add) are also
made public
3. Both 1 and 2 are also done for accepted papers

Otherwise it can be very unfair and harmful as I had pointed out in an early
mail. It's like selective vigilantist transparency, as opposed to real and
fair transparency.


On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Harald Hammarström <harald at bombo.se> wrote:

>
>
>> Can you tell us all the name of an institution that publicly announces the
>> ranking of unsuccessful job applicants? Just for curiosity, I am sure that
>> many people would like to refer to this list of rejected applicants just to
>> see how many people who would apply to such an insitution. I am also sure
>> that it would be very interesting to do a quick check to find out where the
>> rejected applicants now work and see how their current employer compares
>> with the institution that rejected them.
>>
>
> In Sweden such records are indeed public (in the sense that anyone can
> request copies, not in the sense that they are announced
> publicly in newspapers or the like). Here's an example:
> http://haraldhammarstrom.ruhosting.nl/2744_001.pdf
> http://haraldhammarstrom.ruhosting.nl/2745_001.pdf
>
> There's no question that this policy makes expert reviewers be more
> objective. A great example is when I was in committee
> where one of the foreign experts hadn't understood they would be public
> (though this was in the instructions give to him) and gave
> explicit credit to one applicant (but not the others) for his expected
> great future work. He later defended this by saying that he
> wasn't aware the review was going to be public...
>
> Of course, openness does not make abuse impossible -- for example, there is
> great leeway in formulating job announcements
> and choosing expert reviewers, and senior people who favour a certain
> candidate do play these cards. Another hiring committee
> I was in received objections as a result of the fact that all judgements
> were open to all. These objections were legitimate but
> the committee chose to ignore them without explanation.
>
> all the best,
>
> H
>
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