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Wed May 23 06:24:47 UTC 2012

Hi,
Actually I am in the field of research in computational linguistics and corpus linguistics for the last eight years. During this time, I have not only done theoretical work, but developed software based on my research work. Some of my work includes the development of a corpus, a morphological analyzer, a parser and a transliterator for Pashto langauge. I have also worked on a part of speech tagger for Pashto and the work is in progress. I am interested in the knowledge and discussions about copyright rules. In my view, a more severe problem is that if someone integrates in his/her software an algorithm (or even the software code) from another scholar's work (e.g. my morphological analyzer code and methodology) without the knowledge of the scholar. It will be very hard to check the code of such a larger software for 'plagiarism'!!!!

Regards.
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From: evalacroix at free.fr <evalacroix at free.fr>
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To: "WILLIAMS Geoffrey" <williams at univ-ubs.fr>
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Received: Wednesday, 23 May, 2012, 1:49 AM

Dear all,
I discovered last year that I was myself victim of plagiarism, with my Master's thesis. An important proportion of the theoretical part was copied without changing even a single word, presented within another Master's thesis, and published by a workshop organizer who explained that they would trust the people who came to their meetings; it would be impossible to check all the papers for plagiarism. Nice example of intellectual honesty. 

Best regards.
Eva.

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De: "WILLIAMS Geoffrey" <williams at univ-ubs.fr>
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Dear All, 

I agree with what has been written. What is published is published. 

However, ever sent in a project proposal which was rejected, and later finding it recycled? Borrowing ideas and taking them on is a nasty phenomenon that is not new, cannot be easily stopped, but happens far too often. There is a great deal of short term memory about and the difference between heavily inspired and downright plagiarism is a thin one. A post doc of mine pointed out a case of plagiarism recently and was told by the inspired persons that they had changed the statistical measure, so the reuse of the concept did not need acknowledgement. Does it cost so much to give a reference? 

We had a bad case of plagiarism in our university recently, and no action was taken, so as to avoid a scandal. Same has happened elsewhere in France. We preach one thing to students, and then let real academic plagiarism go unchallenged. This is not good. 

Best 

Geoffrey 

Le 22/05/2012 11:47, Gill Philip a écrit : 

Dear Fatimah, corpora readers, 

The question really does concern what is and what is not public, as Mike said earlier. 
Independently of who has done the research, or who has paid for it, if the work has been published (in the widest sense, including conference presentations, working papers, e-prints as well as paper-print journals and books) then anyone can do what they want with it... provided that they cite the source. 

If the work has *not* been published, but has been made available in confidence (to supervisors, journal editors, peer reviewers, etc) and is then published - presumably without the permission of nor reference to the original author - then that would almost certainly be illegitimate. One exception would be if the research is part of a larger project in which work is expected to be shared between participants in that project. 

Unfortunately plagiarism happens, and the victims are usually young/beginning researchers who do not yet have a network of colleagues to defend their interests. I sincerely hope your question was just theoretical. 

best, 
Gill 

On 22 May 2012 11:05, fatima zuhra < fateeshah at yahoo.com > wrote: 

Hi all, 

If someone is assigned a research project by some organization (who is paying money for that), can he/she use other's research work, data or methodology without the permission of the researcher? And moreover, claim it to be the developer teams' own work? 

Thanks. 

--- On Tue, 22/5/12, Mike Scott < mike at lexically.net > wrote: 

From: Mike Scott < mike at lexically.net > 
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To: corpora at uib.no 
Received: Tuesday, 22 May, 2012, 12:22 PM 

IN my opinion, yes. If you make something public (publishing) you cannot pick & choose who will use that idea or those data. Similarly you cannot have back a gift once given. 

Cheers -- Mike 

On 22/05/2012 05:12, fatima zuhra wrote: 

I want to ask a question. If some scholar's work is published, can anyone use that work for a developmental project without the scholar's permission? Even the supervisor of the scholar? 
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Mike Scott

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