ELL: RE: spam and conviction

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Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 19:05:38 +0700
From: Matthew McDaniel <akha at loxinfo.co.th>
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Ok, here is my solution.

I have registered the web domain called EndangeredLanguages.com

I have done a similar registration for Indigenousworld.com

What we will be doing in both cases is as follows, and I will speak in regard
to
endangered languages first.

On the web site, endangeredlanguages.com we will make templates where a person
can sign up one page in an alphabetical order and then put in their pass word
and add their language group to that site, like a mall, that will tell the
work
they are doing on that langauge and the resources that they have gathered.

This will give an easy format to fill out for people that don't have place to
park.

It is going to take time for us to get the site built but it is hoped that it
will in brief form give place to lots of language groups to park their work's
introduction, needs they have, resources they have found and so forth.

Please be patient while we get it built.

Matthew McDaniel

"Gail M. Coelho" wrote:

> I second that! I do want to hear about the Welsh Language Society and all
> other societies, fieldwork, gripes, etc. that people have in relation to
> endangered languages.
>
> I for one am interested in the following language area:
>
> The Betta Kurumbas are an adivasi (Indian word for 'indigenous') group who
> live in the Nilgiri Mountains of South India. One of the things that
> interest me the most about these people is that with them one encounters
> not only problems arising from British colonialism, but Indian colonialism
> as a continuation of what the British started. From what I read, the
> Nilgiris was relatively isolated from the rest of India because it's
> foothills were covered with malaria-infested forests that were difficult to
> traverse. Several ethnic groups lived within the Nilgiris, and they had an
> interesting caste-like relationship with each other. One groups herded
> buffalo and produced mild; another cultivated food crops; another produced
> equipment (tools, etc.), played music at festivals, made leather, etc;
> another lived in the forest and gathered forest-goods. They bartered these
> with each other and occasionally also with people down in the plains. Each
> group lived in separate villages and spoke different languages. Sounds like
> a pretty idyllic existence to me, though it must definitely have had its
> problems.
>
> This isolation ended in the 19th century, when the British 'discovered' the
> Nilgiris and discovered especially that (a) the rich forest soil and
> climate was good for tea and coffee plantations and (b) the mountain
> coolness was a relief from the summer heat of the plains. They set about
> 'developing' the area, setting up towns and plantations, and importing
> large numbers of Indian labourers to work there. When they left, 'their'
> land was bought up by (non-Nilgiri) Indians and the plantations have of
> course multiplied. The place is being rapidly deforested and tea and coffee
> is being planted where virgin forests once stood. The indigenous groups
> have been edged out of their orginal lands and have become marginalized,
> underprivileged groups. They can no longer pursue their traditional
> lifestyles and there's barely any place for them in the new world we now
> have there. They're poor where they were once rich -- even if they didn't
> own 'title deeds' to any land. They're a national problem, where until the
> British arrived, they were no problem to anyone at all. I blame the British
> for starting all this, but now we are no less to blame for continuing with
> what the British started.
>
> As far as language is concerned, this situation looks to me like a prime
> candidate for impending language loss. The adivasis do maintain their
> language, but its possible that contact with the non-Nilgiris languages
> that are now socially dominant there will affect their language
> tremendously. In any case, I want to find out what the situation is and
> work on describing their language.
>
> I havn't heard of any language societies in the Nilgiris, though there are
> NGOs that work on adivasi welfare issues. Maybe some linguists could start
> one sometime!
>
> Gail Coelho
>
> At 02:49 PM 4/1/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >I, for one, would be interested in hearing about the Welsh Language
> Society.
> >Why do you feel this is an inappropriate forum? I'd also be interested in
> >hearing about the situation in the Euskara communities in France and Spain,
> >the Euchee project going on in Oklahoma, Hawaiian-speaking communities on
> >the Big Island, etc. If Matthew is monopolizing the list, it's not his
> >fault. Others involved in this work elsewhere in the world should take his
> >initiative and get some information out on this list.
> >
> >Seriously, I think Matthew is right. What is the point of all the billions
> >of dollars spent on academic  research if we are going to insist that it
> >remain quarantined from the real world? I think this list is a good place
> >for academic-oriented folks to interact with those out in the field. How
> >else is this going to happen? And why would you think that this would be a
> >bad thing? I'm afraid I don't understand.
> >
> >David Harris
> >Washington, DC
> >
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The Akha Heritage Foundation
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In the US can be transfered to:

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