ELL: RE: spam and conviction

Gail M. Coelho gail at utxvms.cc.utexas.edu
Sun Apr 4 20:28:24 UTC 1999


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  Sorry, I slipped up on my last email -- it was Tom McClive who gave us that
  interesting info on the Welsh Language Society, not David Harris. My
  apologies.

  Gail Coelho

  At 07:05 PM 4/4/99 +0700, you wrote:
  >Ok, here is my solution.
  >
  >I have registered the web domain called EndangeredLanguages.com
  >
  >I have done a similar registration for Indigenousworld.com

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    At 07:05 PM 4/4/99 +0700, you wrote:
    >Ok, here is my solution.
    >
    >I have registered the web domain called EndangeredLanguages.com
    >
    >I have done a similar registration for Indigenousworld.com
    >
    >What we will be doing in both cases is as follows, and I will speak in
    regard to
    >endangered languages first.
    >
    >On the web site, endangeredlanguages.com we will make templates where a
    person
    >can sign up one page in an alphabetical order and then put in their pass
    word
    >and add their language group to that site, like a mall, that will tell
    the
    work
    >they are doing on that langauge and the resources that they have
    gathered.
    >
    >This will give an easy format to fill out for people that don't have
    place to
    >park.
    >
>
>It is going to take time for us to get the site built but it is hoped that it
>will in brief form give place to lots of language groups to park their work's
>introduction, needs they have, resources they have found and so forth.
>
>Please be patient while we get it built.
>
>Matthew McDaniel


Good idea! We need some place where individuals can post info about the
areas they're interested in and give others ideas about what can be done.
David Harris' description of the Welsh Language Society, for example was
very interesting and gives me ideas of what could be done in the Nilgiris.

We also need a place where we can provide info about communities that
counteracts the sort of slanderous information given in webpages like
"http://www.calebproject.org/nance/n949.htm". I looked up that webpage and
was *horrified* at what I read about communities in India. Given below is a
copy of what the Cabal Project -- sorry, Caleb project (that was a freudian
slip!) -- has to say about the Kurumbas (though they're a Kurumba group
that lives elsewhere in India -- I don't think they're related to the Betta
Kurumbas I work with). I could tell you a lot of positive things about the
Kurumbas I've met, in contrast to the negative, biased information given on
that site!

Gail Coelho

Appendix: Extract from Caleb Project's Nance Profile on Kurumbas in India
-- I don't think the authors are even aware that 'Kurumba' is actually a
cover term for many different ethnic communities in India:

MARC ID:                          2717.
ALTERNATE NAMES:                  Korambar, Kuramwari, Kurumar, Kurumbar,
                                  Kuruba, Kurumban, Kurumvari.
				  SIZE OF GROUP:                    11,000 in
				  Dharmapuri district of Tamil Nadu.
				  LOCATION:                         Also in
				  Madras, Maharashitra, Mysore, Andhra
				                                    Pradesh,
								    Kerala

								    The
								    following
								    is taken
								    from
								    11/26/84
								    issue of
								    GLOBAL
								    PRAYER
								    DIGEST
								              Frontier
								    Fellowship,
								    Inc.,P.O. Box
								    90970,
								    Pasadena,
								    CA 91104
								                          PLEAD
								    WITH GOD
								    FOR THE
								    HIDDEN
								    PEOPLES
								             PRAY
								    FOR THE
								    11,000
								    HINDU-ANIMIST
								    KURUMBAS
								    OF TAMIL
								    NADU,
								    INDIA

								         "Because
								         you
								         eloped
								         rather
								         than
								         getting
								         approval
								         to
								         marry,
								         you
								         will
									 have
								         to
									 appear
								         before
								         the
								         village
								         council.
								         If
								         you
								         do
								         not
								         come
								         you
								         must
								         leave
								         the
									 village
								         and
								         never
								         return."
									      Clan
								         roles
								         among
								         the
								         Kurumba
								         in
								         India
								         may
								         seem
								         a bit
								         harsh
								         to
								         Westerners.
									 This
								         couple
								         was
								         fortunate.
								         They
								         were
								         of
								         the
								         same
								         clan
								         and
								         caste,
								         and
								         thus
									 would
									 not
								         automatically
								         be
								         excommunicated.
								         But
								         even
								         though
								         eloping
								         is a
								         common
									 practice
								         among
								         the
								         Kurumba,
								         still
								         the
								         marriages
								         are
								         usually
								         arranged
								         by
								         the
									 families
								         within
								         the
								         same
								         villages,
								         and
								         any
								         flaunting
								         of
								         the
								         customs,
								         even
								         in
									 long-recognized
								         patterns,
								         must
								         be
								         pardoned
								         by
								         the
								         panchayat
								         - the
								         village
									 council.
								         The
								         panchayat
								         also
								         must
								         approve
								         separation
								         or
								         divorce,
								         but
									 polygamy
								         is
									 a
								         commonly
								         accepted
								         practice.
									      The
								         Kurumbas
								         as a
								         people
								         group
								         spread
								         over
								         several
								         states
								         of
								         India:
									 Kerala,
									 Kamataka,
								         Andhra
								         Pradesh,
								         and
								         Tamil
								         Nadu.
								         These
								         eleven
								         thousand
								         who
								         reside
								         in
									 Dharmapuri
								         district
								         of
								         Tamil
								         Nadu,
								         India,
								         were
								         once
								         nomadic
								         but
								         now
								         are
								         plains
									 farmers
								         though
								         they
								         still
								         keep
								         sheep.
								         As a
								         people
								         group,
								         the
								         Kurumbas
								         worship
									 nearly
								         all
								         the
								         Hindu
								         gods,
								         as
								         well
								         as
								         local
								         gods
								         and
								         personified
								         objects
								         like
									 stones
								         and
								         trees. They
								         believe
								         that
								         many
								         people
								         are
								         possessed
								         with
								         evil
									 spirits,
									 whom
								         they
								         fear
								         and
								         want
								         to
								         appease.
								         A
								         sick
								         man,
								         for
								         instance,
								         will
								         not
									 hesitate
									 to
								         sacrifice
								         a
								         goat
								         to
								         evil
								         spirits
								         in
								         order
								         to
								         have
								         a
								         speedy
								         recovery.
								         As
									 yet
									 there
								         is no
								         portion
								         of
								         Scripture
								         in
								         the
								         Kurumba
								         language.
									      Father,
								         publish
								         Your
								         glad
								         tidings
								         of
								         redemption
								         and
								         release
								         to
								         the
									 Kurumba.
									 May
								         Your
								         gospel
								         spread
								         rapidly
								         over
								         the
								         natural
								         bridges
								         of
								         relationships
								         in
									 families
								         and
								         villages.

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