clock and echo problem

[David McFarlane]

Michiel,

I reposted your question along with my (lengthy) response, in a new 
thread entitled "Discussion re: new PreRelease & Frame defaults for EP2".

Best,
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David McFarlane
E-Prime training 
online:  http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx
Twitter:  @EPrimeMaster (twitter.com/EPrimeMaster)


At 9/7/2012 09:48 AM Friday, Michiel Sovijarvi-Spape wrote:
>Hi David,
>Slightly off-topic, what do you think of this default? I thought myself it
>was rather strange of PST to change, suddenly after all these years (and
>dozens of pre-release versions, with none having these defaults AFAIK) to:
>1) set pre-release to duration by default, so that inline code after the
>object is executed before the end of the object (not very transparent coding
>at all - one wouldn't be able to see this from the structure)
>2) set textdisplays to 75% by default. I can see how they like to show off a
>feature that has been there since forever and can really be extremely useful
>and which people often fill in with needless extra slides. But I noticed,
>when I last made a presentation about e-prime, that I very often had to say
>"oh, yeah, sorry, forgot to turn width to 100%", until I just made an
>unreferenced object which I copied whenever I needed a new "blank" display.
>It's almost like Microsoft would suddenly just publish your calendar without
>asking to the world (with option somewhere hidden to not do this): a useful
>feature, to be sure, one which few people probably use, and maybe not use
>for simple reason that it's a bit hidden in the GUI. But to think the
>solution is it should be on by default? Then again, maybe they have some
>better reason that eludes me?
>
>I hope they can change it back, it's pretty annoying.
>
>Best,
>Michiel
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>Of David McFarlane
>Sent: 06 September 2012 18:54
>To: e-prime at googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: clock and echo problem
>
>Jotapan,
>
>Why not just set your desired Duration, set Time Limit to (same as
>duration), and then (this is the key!) also set PreRelease to the same value
>as Duration?  Starting with 2.0.10.18, EP2 even has a "(same as duration)"
>option for PreRelease, and this has become the default.
>
>-----
>David McFarlane
>E-Prime training
>online:  http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx
>Twitter:  @EPrimeMaster (twitter.com/EPrimeMaster)
>
>
>At 9/4/2012 09:53 PM Tuesday, you wrote:
> >I have been trying for some time to add a countdown clock display in
> >my programs that informs the participant on how long he(she) still
> >has to respond in a given task (e.g., during a slide presentation).
> >I have extensivelly looked in the forums for this information. I
> >found a specific post where 2 suggestions are presented (Displaying
> >a countdown timer for participants, originally posted on/ I was able
> >to work around the script /). I could not get the first suggestion
> >to work... I was able to  work around the script provided in the
> >e-prime countdown sample, although it is not perfect; the countdown
> >example deals with seconds and I need minutes. So instead of having
> >"lnCountTime = (lnEndTime - Clock.Read) / 1000", I have lnCountTime
> >= (lnEndTime - Clock.Read) / 60000. Not perfect but ok.
> >
> >However, I get an echo problem with this. I want the participant to
> >be able to see all the responses he(she) is providing throught the
> >task and them have them disappear when the program moves to the next
> >slide. To get the countdown clock to work I have to set the duration
> >of the slide to 0. If I set the "time limit" to "same as duration"
> >it assumes the 0 duration and so the echo is not displayed
> >anymore... is there a way to add in the inline a command to finish
> >the echo when the time is up?
> >
> >Simply displaying a clock on the slide for the entire slide
> >presentation would work for me as well (instead of the countdown
> >clock) and could help solve the echo problem. Is there a simple way
> >to get a clock being displayed on a slide?
> >
> >I really appreciate all the help I can get on this.
> >
> >Jotapan

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