clock and echo problem

[David McFarlane]

Sorry, I hit "Send" by mistake before including a link to the new 
thread, here it is:
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/e-prime/bvTbL-QMgu8/discussion

-- David McFarlane


At 9/7/2012 11:22 AM Friday, David McFarlane wrote:
>Michiel,
>
>I reposted your question along with my (lengthy) response, in a new 
>thread entitled "Discussion re: new PreRelease & Frame defaults for EP2".
>
>Best,
>-----
>David McFarlane
>E-Prime training 
>online:  http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx
>Twitter:  @EPrimeMaster (twitter.com/EPrimeMaster)
>
>
>At 9/7/2012 09:48 AM Friday, Michiel Sovijarvi-Spape wrote:
>>Hi David,
>>Slightly off-topic, what do you think of this default? I thought myself it
>>was rather strange of PST to change, suddenly after all these years (and
>>dozens of pre-release versions, with none having these defaults AFAIK) to:
>>1) set pre-release to duration by default, so that inline code after the
>>object is executed before the end of the object (not very transparent coding
>>at all - one wouldn't be able to see this from the structure)
>>2) set textdisplays to 75% by default. I can see how they like to show off a
>>feature that has been there since forever and can really be extremely useful
>>and which people often fill in with needless extra slides. But I noticed,
>>when I last made a presentation about e-prime, that I very often had to say
>>"oh, yeah, sorry, forgot to turn width to 100%", until I just made an
>>unreferenced object which I copied whenever I needed a new "blank" display.
>>It's almost like Microsoft would suddenly just publish your calendar without
>>asking to the world (with option somewhere hidden to not do this): a useful
>>feature, to be sure, one which few people probably use, and maybe not use
>>for simple reason that it's a bit hidden in the GUI. But to think the
>>solution is it should be on by default? Then again, maybe they have some
>>better reason that eludes me?
>>
>>I hope they can change it back, it's pretty annoying.
>>
>>Best,
>>Michiel
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>Of David McFarlane
>>Sent: 06 September 2012 18:54
>>To: e-prime at googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Re: clock and echo problem
>>
>>Jotapan,
>>
>>Why not just set your desired Duration, set Time Limit to (same as
>>duration), and then (this is the key!) also set PreRelease to the same value
>>as Duration?  Starting with 2.0.10.18, EP2 even has a "(same as duration)"
>>option for PreRelease, and this has become the default.
>>
>>-----
>>David McFarlane
>>E-Prime training
>>online:  http://psychology.msu.edu/Workshops_Courses/eprime.aspx
>>Twitter:  @EPrimeMaster (twitter.com/EPrimeMaster)
>>
>>
>>At 9/4/2012 09:53 PM Tuesday, you wrote:
>> >I have been trying for some time to add a countdown clock display in
>> >my programs that informs the participant on how long he(she) still
>> >has to respond in a given task (e.g., during a slide presentation).
>> >I have extensivelly looked in the forums for this information. I
>> >found a specific post where 2 suggestions are presented (Displaying
>> >a countdown timer for participants, originally posted on/ I was able
>> >to work around the script /). I could not get the first suggestion
>> >to work... I was able to  work around the script provided in the
>> >e-prime countdown sample, although it is not perfect; the countdown
>> >example deals with seconds and I need minutes. So instead of having
>> >"lnCountTime = (lnEndTime - Clock.Read) / 1000", I have lnCountTime
>> >= (lnEndTime - Clock.Read) / 60000. Not perfect but ok.
>> >
>> >However, I get an echo problem with this. I want the participant to
>> >be able to see all the responses he(she) is providing throught the
>> >task and them have them disappear when the program moves to the next
>> >slide. To get the countdown clock to work I have to set the duration
>> >of the slide to 0. If I set the "time limit" to "same as duration"
>> >it assumes the 0 duration and so the echo is not displayed
>> >anymore... is there a way to add in the inline a command to finish
>> >the echo when the time is up?
>> >
>> >Simply displaying a clock on the slide for the entire slide
>> >presentation would work for me as well (instead of the countdown
>> >clock) and could help solve the echo problem. Is there a simple way
>> >to get a clock being displayed on a slide?
>> >
>> >I really appreciate all the help I can get on this.
>> >
>> >Jotapan
>
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