On using E-DataAid: WAS: Converting an Edat file into either a .xls or .txt file
Paul Groot
pfc.groot at gmail.com
Fri Feb 15 15:03:47 UTC 2013
You're right. E-DataAid features are often overlooked.
Perhaps I was not clear about Excel: I meant that Excel has serious
problems with many rows or columns. Although I think newer versions of
Excel do a much better job now, so this might not be a problem for many
users.
paul
On 13 February 2013 14:27, Cognitology <mspape at cognitology.eu> wrote:
> Hi,****
>
> If you’re not YET doing it, I urge you to have another look at what is
> possible with e-DataAid. The reason is that I know many students 1) know
> SPSS fairly well, and a bit of Excel, and try to avoid E-***. Not saying
> that counts for you as well. Indeed, this is a bit of a shot in the dark,
> but with such sentences as “I have a large number of subject edat files
> (500+) and I like the column/row format that the Excel export option that
> E-DataAid uses so that I can easily convert the data into a format I like
> using spss syntax”, it’s difficult to avoid guessing! You might want to
> say something about what you’re planning to do, but in its absence, let’s
> have an example from my own life, and maybe it helps?****
>
> **· **What I like is having a good amount of Repeated Measures
> ANOVA style formatted columns, say, RTs of 2x4 conditions, one row per
> subject. For SPSS. What I have is 500 .edats. Arggh, right?****
>
> **1. **We merge all files to one big .emrg, which we then open in
> .edat****
>
> **2. **We filter out those RTs we are not interested in, say, the
> ones in which an error occurs. Also, I don’t like trials 1:20.****
>
> **3. **Now, we go to analyze, drag Subject to the Row, and any type
> of between-subject variable (sex, age, etc). ****
>
> **4. **Then drag ConditionP1vs2 to columns, drag
> ConditionQ1vs2vs3vs4 to columns. Drag the critical RT thing to the Data
> bit. Press Run.****
>
> **5. **So, we should see a nice table of at least 500x8. Oops, it’s
> got two decimals.. why? Make that 4. Select all of it, copy the bunch to
> excel.****
>
> **6. **Inside excel, underneath the two rows with variables (rows A
> and B), insert a new row (say C). Enter the wonderful formula =A&”_”&B and
> drag it all across row C.****
>
> **7. **Select row C, copy, go stand in an empty bit, paste special:
> values only, and transpose. Copy that, go to SPSS, paste in variables: now,
> that’s descriptive indeed. ****
>
> **8. **Copy all the values over to SPSS (but you’ll have to
> reassign string values from numeric for some columns).****
>
> ** **
>
> These 8 steps, lengthy as they may seem, take me about 2 minutes, and I
> think it’s a great workflow. ****
>
> TLDR? Try E-DataAid, it’s ridiculously simple, really rocks, and SPSS is
> best avoided as they make it slower and buggier with every next release. *
> ***
>
> ** **
>
> PS: Paul, I find Excel not at all slow with large data-files? Much faster
> than SPSS, at least, or at least it has been between excel 2007 and 2010
> (2013 beta was running very slow here); it does not cope very well with
> large and lengthy formulas that need repeated recalculation and take up
> more than hundreds of MBs, though. ****
>
> ** **
>
> Best,****
>
> Michiel****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* e-prime at googlegroups.com [mailto:e-prime at googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Daniel
> *Sent:* 11. February 2013 23:02
> *To:* e-prime at googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Converting an Edat file into either a .xls or .txt file****
>
> ** **
>
> Yeah, I will probably just end up splitting it using a SPSS syntax script
> (I am not very familiar with Matlab yet), it will be a little bit tedious
> but faster than doing it manually.****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks for the input.
>
> On Friday, February 8, 2013 6:49:09 PM UTC-5, Daniel wrote:****
>
> I have a large number of subject edat files (500+) and I like the
> column/row format that the Excel export option that E-DataAid uses so that
> I can easily convert the data into a format I like using spss syntax. Is
> there a faster way to convert all of these subject files into the excel
> format, some sort of way to iterate over all files in a folder, instead of
> having to open each one and export them separately?****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks.****
>
> ** **
>
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