E-Prime Stability
David McFarlane
mcfarla9 at msu.edu
Thu Oct 10 16:13:52 UTC 2013
With regard to XP vs. Vista/Win7... For the
longest time I advised EP users to stick with XP
32-bit. PST now certifies EP2.0.10 to work under
Vista/Win7, and with both 32- and 64-bit
platforms, and I have subsequently reversed my
advice. I have been testing and doing some
development using a dual-boot XP-32/Win7-64
machine, and EP2.0.10 has worked well for me on
the Win7-64 side, maybe even better than on the
XP-32 side. E.g., I have been testing sound
latencies -- under XP-32, I get sound latencies
on the order of 30 ms. Using the *same* machine
booted to Win7-64, and using the available
CoreAudio API, I can get sound latencies solidly down to around 10 ms.
But don't get me started on movies! Movies have
been a headache in every release of EP2, but for
that matter we have also had trouble with movies
in PsychoPy. So I do not think this is the fault
of EP, I think this is just the nature of our
digital movies, a lot of this attributable to the poor state of our codecs.
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At 10/10/2013 10:59 AM Thursday, David Vinson wrote:
>Hi Michiel,
>
>I'm still plodding along using an XP box for my
>main development platform, EP Pro latest version
>and it seems to be much more stable than you've
>experienced: P(crash per 1hr) << 5%. Although I
>haven't done anything particularly unusual or exploratory lately.
>
>I have had quite a few crashes on running during
>development - the usual difficulties getting
>videos to work; loading nested Lists from file;
>but none of these are related to e-studio stability.
>
>Copy-pasting from multiple open experiments, no
>problem at all; dragging objects around, ditto.
>No weird red X's either. Probably your
>development and mine is comparing apples and
>oranges, but my rate of crashes within E-Studio
>2.x has been pretty constant (and low) for quite
>some time. Maybe it's more stable on XP?
>
>Obviously this isn't much of a long term
>solution given the impending end of support for
>XP and perhaps some strong institutional
>pressure to move on.... I'd be interested to
>know about others' experiences too.
>
>best,
>DV
>
>
>On 10/10/2013 14:20, Cognitology wrote:
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Given that E-Prime 2 is now pretty much a final
>>release, I was wondering how many of you feel
>>it remains **particularly** instable? I mean,
>>E-Studio (2, pro), latest version, and I don’t
>>stupid crashes (say, recursively calling the
>>sessionproc from a list within sessionproc). Just things like
>>
>>·Writing inline:
>>
>>Try typing:
>>
>>/*
>>
>>Hoppa
>>
>>*/.
>>
>>Works! Automatically becomes
>>
>>‘/*
>>
>>‘Hoppa
>>
>>‘*/.
>>
>>Now commented out. However, type in an inline (not the user part)
>>
>>‘/*
>>
>>Hoppa
>>
>>*/....CRASH!
>>
>>·Just dragging objects around, adding
>>attributes, all sorts of randomness. Sometimes,
>>there are nice big red crosses where graphics usually are.
>>
>>The latter is the more annoying part. In
>>general, when I’m developing something, on both
>>my laptop and home pc (both win7prox64), this
>>happens. In my experience, in fact, most
>>people, even if they are very experienced, have
>>random stability issues with e-studio. My
>>question then is: does the list have similar
>>issues? Say, if you’ve been doing some
>>development, what is the chance that e-prime
>>will crash within 60 minutes? I’m estimating it at 80% here.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Michiel
>>
>>Michiel Sovijärvi-Spapé
>>
>>Helsinki Institute for Information Technology
>>
>>Aalto & Helsingin Yliopisto,
>>
>>Finland
>>
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