past perfect for past

[john at research.haifa.ac.il]

Yes, but to my knowledge it's more common for a past to develop from a present
perfect rather than from a past perfect.
John



Quoting Tom Givon <tgivon at uoregon.edu>:

>
> Maybe it's good to remember that the shift from "perfect" to "past" is
> one of the most natural, wide-spread ways of getting past-tense marking.  TG
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> john at research.haifa.ac.il wrote:
> > About 25 years ago I noticed this sort of this in the usage of speakers of
> Black
> > English. On closer analysis, I found that it was used particularly for
> completed
> > actions at the beginning of narrative sequences, e.g. starting a personal
> > story with 'I'd gone to New York last weekend and I saw my cousin and he
> told
> > me...'. It wasn't used for past tenses in general, just in that context.
> > John
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> >
> > Quoting "Moore, John" <moorej at ucsd.edu>:
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> >
> >> I heard someone claim that younger speakers of American English will use
> the
> >> past perfect ('I'd gone') instead of the simple past ('I went') in
> colloquial
> >> speech.  Has anyone heard of this, and if so, does anyone know of any
> >> literature n it?
> >>
> >> thanks, John
> >>
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