past perfect for past
Damien Hall
djh514 at york.ac.uk
Wed Aug 11 18:29:06 UTC 2010
This alternation is certainly not limited to AAVE any more - it was one of
the peculiarities of young Americans' English that stuck out most to me as
a British sociolinguist at Penn between 2003 and 2008. I'm afraid I don't
know of any literature on it, though. FWIW, my impression is that, while
common, using the past perfect for the simple past is a variant which
(educated) Americans who are older than their twenties would still avoid
and see as sub-standard, not merely different.
Could it be related to the use of the simple past in American English (by
many people, not just the young) where British English would prefer the
perfect: the classic 'Did you eat yet?' ~ 'Have you eaten (yet)?'
alternation? In a way, these two developments could be seen as part of a
'syntactic / semantic chain-shift', whereby in both cases American English
can use a tense further into the past than British English can? Such a
shift would then clearly be well advanced for the perfect / past
alternation, but only in its beginning stages for the simple past / past
perfect alternation; but, if this were like a phonological chain-shift, we
could expect the simple past / past perfect alternation to gain ground and
expand its social coverage in future.
I have, in fact, written a paper on the perfect / past alternation, which I
would be very willing to pass on to anyone who would like to see it.
I would also recommend that this question be asked on the American Dialect
Society List
http://listserv.linguistlist.org/archives/ads-l.html
since the ADS-L has among its subscribers a number of experts who would be
able to be more authoritative about it, and others who can add their
experience of when and where the past perfect / past alternation has been
found.
Damien
--
Damien Hall
University of York
Department of Language and Linguistic Science
Heslington
YORK
YO10 5DD
UK
Tel. (office) +44 (0)1904 432665
(mobile) +44 (0)771 853 5634
Fax +44 (0)1904 432673
http://www.york.ac.uk/res/aiseb
http://www.york.ac.uk/depts/lang/people/pages/hall.htm
DISCLAIMER: http://www.york.ac.uk/docs/disclaimer/email.htm
More information about the Funknet
mailing list