SV: [gothic-l] Your opinions on this site...

[Le Bateman]

Why would not the Goths use the form similar to the Old English world,
Weorold or Woruld for world which might be cosmos which in Koine is
translated kosmos world society in some cases.  See Bauer, Arndt, and
Gingrich Lexicon  of the Greek New Testement. B. A. and G. also shows
Classical authors which used this word. Also see Henry  Sweet's AS
Dictionary.
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From: "M." <mcarver at csulb.edu>
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on 10/5/00 11:08 AM, jdm314 at aol.com at jdm314 at aol.com wrote:

> According to Koebler's OTHER book, Verzeichnis der Lateinisch-Gotischen
> Entsprechungen der Bibelübersetzung:
>
>
> mundus: aiws, fairhwus, manaselhs           [note, the xerox quality is
quite
> bad here, and I think I screwed up that last word]
>
> orbis: (midjungards)
>
> saeculum: aiws, alds, fairhwus, (libains)
>
> terra: airtha, (dalath), (midjungards), statha

You can search thus backwards in Gotisches Woerterbuch (the greek and latin
usages are listed under the gothic entries), but the popularity of certain
usages is not noted. Using the unbound search, it seems "fairhwus" and
"manaseths" (Justin - your last word) are the most common words for "world"
(kosmos), with approx. equal usage. the first may be used generally, where
the second of course necessarily includes the human context, at least in
theory. perhaps they were truly or well-nigh synonymous. the usage in
genesis 2:1 is different, though, as it is usually translated "the hosts".
Translating from the septuagint presents many problems, since the greek was
so different (hebraized?) in comparison to the later koine. i'm sure i'll
have to go over it a few more times at least. one problem is the usage of
the definite article. the vulgate of course in the minimal extreme, and any
greek or aramaic text the maximal extreme. determining the exact extent of
the definite's usage in Gothic is thus to be done somewhere between, as it
seems not to have followed the koine too closely in such matters.

Matþaius



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