[gothic-l] Aryans, Scythians, misc

Manuel Gutierrez Algaba irmina at CTV.ES
Fri Sep 15 18:00:06 UTC 2000


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On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Anthony Appleyard wrote:
>   I thought the Scyths were an Iranian people. It is said that the Ossetic
> people in the Balkans are descended from them. They are named "Ashkuz" in

If they were Iranian, then in 500BC, why Herodotus say Scyths
live in Crimea, and at the same time Persians rule  Iran ?
Scyths in Iran and Scyths in Crimea ? By goths I mean the Scyths
that in 500BC. were in Crimea and South Ukraine. The "Iranian Scyths"
or other Indoeuropean people were already settled in India, Iran,
Pakistan,...

Can we agree that Goths were in that zone in that time?

Can we agree that Goths move westward and southward little after
those years ?

Of course, I'm not a specialist , just I give my  (light) impressions.

Considering the fact that people usually relate Swedish people
and Gothic  (which is right), I wonder why can't relate with the
other half (Northern India).

And yes, the language of Bishop Wulfila is not Swedish, not Gata,
it's what was left after a couple of centuries of Roman contacts
and civilization. It was the language spoken in Central Spain,
Southern France in the centuries 4-7 by these people.

The whole question is if we can trace Germanic or more precisely
Gothic in some dialect of some people of Northern India. Of course,
general Indoeuropean interferes that search.

For example take my surname : Gutierrez. In Gandasa I've
read that Goptri (-->Gupta) means military governor. For me,
it's clear that Indian Gupta and Spanish Gothic were not too much
apart. The excitement comes when you see those similitaries
10000 km away. If I see a Taiwanese Wup-tiar i'd be more excited indeed.

Now, is it Goptri "general indoeuropean", is it Gothic?

Well, I'm not specialist !

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MGA




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