[gothic-l] General question about [CG][ae](l)?tier

Manuel Gutierrez Algaba irmina at CTV.ES
Fri Sep 15 18:00:55 UTC 2000


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Ok, a hard question, we have :
Gutierrez, Gautier, Gaultier, Gaut, Celt, Gall(us), Gaupt, Gotor,
Goths.

I see a patter here :
First letter : G or C
then (o-u-e, but always a closed sound).
then an optional l or p
then t , always.

Is this a hallucination? Is the same stuff sung different voices ?

At least, it's very suspicious.

More hallucinations:

Hellens <--- Chellens ( like a german ch) <-- kellens <-- keltens

Were the sons of Hellen the sons of a military governor?

Are hellens the  gupta under another voice ?

I don't know, it's very suspicious.

Were this structure :
(weak) king + local military governors  + bare  soldier
the key of success of Celts, Greeks and Germanic people invasions?

Is the name of that people the name of their social structure ?

Was the name of a god ?

Arabs doesn't name themselves Allahies .
Jews doesn't name themselves Yehovies.
Tibetans doesn't name themsevels Buddies.
....

So the word "Goth" is either a symbol of their society or
an attribution ( brave, fearless, ...) or ... what ?

More still:

I read:
"""
<ceatharn>, a troop, so Ir., E.Ir. [ceithern], [*keterna^]; Lat. [cate
rua],
  troop, [cate^na], a chain; O.Sl. [ceta], company (Stokes).  It
  has also been regarded as borrowed from Lat. [quaternio],
  which in the Vulg. means a "body of four soldiers", quaternion.
  Hence Eng. [cateran], [kern].
"""
In:
MacBain, Alexander
-- An Etymological Dictionary of the Gaelic Language
-- Gairm Publications, 1982
-- Published by Gairm Publications, 29 Waterloo Street, Glasgow G2 6BZ
-- Tel. 041-221 1971
-- Printed by Clark Constable (1982) Let, Edinburgh

Available online thru www.dict.org , more or less.
[ceta]-->geta(e)

Again, this may suggest a original military structure.

Ok, that's enough for today.

Regards/Saludos
Manolo
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