Ostrogoths[gothic-l] The old Border between Norway and Sweden.

[keth at ONLINE.NO]

Beril Haggman wrote:

>Well, the Lehmann interpretation certainly sounds unusual and he seems not to offer any argument in support of his interpretation. The explanation of Professor Andersson seems more based on reason taking into account the fact that the Gautoi lived so to say from coast to coast. Nordin seems also to favour the interpretation Ostrogothae = Oestgoetar.

>It is also of interest that Jordanes mentioed the Finni in the same sentence (although the Finni of _Getica_ might very well have been the Sami). Also I think
this sudden mention of the Finni ought to make for a more careful interpretation of such elements as the sequence of the names have a meaning. After all Jordanes was an Early Medieval monk many centuries removed from for instance Cicero. 

>Am also wondering if you by placing the Ostrgothae in Bohuslän in some way is arguing for a Gothic original home on the coast south of Oslo. This would be a new, interesting interpretation. Any other archaelogical, linguistic, historical sources for such an interpretation? Any Norwegian scholars of the same opinion as you? Am just asking because it is always interesting with new theories. Also I believe it would have been reasonable to mention the Gautigoth with the Ostrogothae but instead you have the order

>Gautigoth
>Mixi
>Evagre
>Otingis
>Ostrogothae

>then two peoples which generally are believed to have lived in present day Norway, and then suddenly Finni to be followed by Vinoviloth, Dani, Eruli and the finally a new bunch of names of peoples. I have a problem with finding a system in that order.

>Could you explain why the Finnis should live close to Scania. Don't really understand that point?

>Don't know off hand when the vikings arrived in Ireland, but do you suggest that arrival was before the Danish vikings raided the eastern coast of England? Are you suggesting that the name viking has a Norwegian origin? There a number of bays in Denmark.

>The Danes, in the face of the sudden Swedish attack, put up a great resistance (with also guerrillas) and did successfully defend Copenhagen against the besieging Swedes. If the Danish noblemen had balls (I mean in the sence of dancing) that was balanced for instance by the brave students of Copenhagen University who volunteered to man the walls of the capital Danish city to fight off the Swedish troops, to a great extent mercenaries (even a unit of Tartars, presumably Crimean, depending on the good Swedish-Crimean Tartar relations).
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>Bertil







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