[gothic-l] Re: Jassarfjoll

[dirk at SMRA.CO.UK]

--- In gothic-l at y..., "Francisc Czobor" <czobor at c...> wrote:
> --- In gothic-l at y..., trbrandt at p... wrote:
> > Bertil,
> >
> > Only one question for the moment:
> > Where does that "J" in Asi come from?
> >
> > Venlig hilsen
> > Troels
> >
>
> The J in Jasi < Asi ("Alans") is due to the Slavic intermediate.
> In Old Slavic, many words beginning with a-, both herited from
> Indo-European or borrowed, get an initial j- (= semivocalic i).
> In Slavic languages, the Alans are called Jas, whence in Hungarian
> Jasz "Alan" and in Romanian Iasi = the name of a city, lit. "Alans"
> (the name of this city, situated in eastern Romania, is in Slavonic
> Jasisku torgu "Alanic town", and in Hungarian Jaszvaros "Alan
town").
>
> Francisc


Hi Francisc,

I think it is also believed that instead of the origin Jases, Ases,
Alans, the Russian term Jas is simply derived from the name Jazyg. The
Jazygs were the same as (or a part of) the Sarmatians. In turn the
Sarmatians were also Iranian people like the Alans and the name
Sarmatian may have been another name for the Alans (perhaps their
earliest name).

But note that there is also the theory that the Russian Jases (Ases)
were a turkic people that had nothing to do with the Iranian Alans.
Thus, one of the clans/tribes of the Volga Bulgars was called the
Yasi/Asi.

cheers,
Dirk




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