[gothic-l] Re: Sarmatians and Goths in Poland

[hakan36 at SPRAY.SE]

--- In gothic-l at y..., dirk at s... wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Hi!
> > Once I read a book, a novel, in Poland a well-known book from 
> > nationalromantic period in the beginning of the 20th c, by Henryk 
> > Sienkiewicz. It´s called "Potop" or the "flood" in english. It´s 
> > about the 1650ies in Poland and the nationalistic nobelmens 
effort 
> to 
> > push out a invading army from a well-known nordic country. There 
in 
> a 
> > bysentence you are allowed to follow the swordfencing nobelman 
> > Michael Volodjovsky´s thoughts. And the story goes approximately 
> like 
> > this:"and as a nobelman from the slachta(nobility-class), he not 
> only 
> > had to learn the art of sword-fencing, but must also learn latin 
and 
> > gothic. But he wasn´t very interested in books". In books and 
films, 
> > especially the nobility is often depicted as being blond. 
> > 
> > I wonder if it was a myth during the nationalromantic period or 
did 
> > the polish noblemen in general, until the 17th c also speak 
gothic. 
> > And if they did that, why did they do that?
> > 
> > 
> > Håkan Liljeberg
> 
> 
> Hi Hakan,
> 
> there is no chance in the world that the 17th century (or 
> earlier/later) Polish nobility spoke Gothic. I remember that when 
in 
> the 13th and 14th century the German order knights conquered the 
land 
> of the Prussians and Masovia, a Polish chronicler spoke of the 
threat 
> of the Goths, thus equating Germans with Goths. Also, a German 
> printing script widely used at this time is still called Gothic 
> (Gotische Frakturschrift), maybe he was refering to that. At any 
rate 
> no Gothic was spoken in 17th century Poland!

Hi Dirk,

As I thought, the idea about a large amount being able to speak 
gothic in Poland in the 17th was a hoax. But such ideas and bettering 
history into fantastic legends and stories was normal in the 19th c. 
Free interpretation was a regular way of telling the history. The 
history allover the western world was told the way you wanted it to 
be, rather the way it really was. Probably because the science of 
archeology was still in it´s infancy. 


Greetings from




Håkan Liljeberg


   


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